Has anyone else had a continual ongoing battle with ovo to try and stop endless price increases? so far my 'fixed rate' dd payments have increased from £76 pcm to their current estimate of £293 pcm... for a small 3 bed semi!!! any suggestions about how to prevent my impending bankruptcy at the hands of ovo energy? TIA.
Updated on 04/11/24 by Abby_OVO
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I have a smart meter. I would very much like it to be checked.
Thanks for your response,
Vicky
Hey
It's good to hear you have a Smart Meter, as that should have been sending us readings each month so we've been able to record what you've been using.
As I mentioned Direct Debit increases are usually due to the amount you are paying per month, not actually covering what you are using so if you can check your account, that will help us narrow down what's going on.
Darran
I live in a medium sized 3 bedroom semi with storage radiators for heating and no gas appliances.
My monthly Direct debit is £164 and I am advised to increase this to £205 so your recommended increase does seem excessive, Unless you have a lot of debt with OVO.
Or you are on a variable tariff.
I asked "My Ovo" several times by email and phone why the Direct Debit requirements varied with monthly regularity and eventually received this reply;
"Thank you for taking the time to email us today and thank you for taking the time to speak over the phone. As discussed, the meter read issue will be looked at and resolved after the engineer has been out and has done some tests. In regards to the Direct Debit, My OVO will always give you a recommended Direct Debit amount that will change all the time based on your balance, the time of year + weather conditions etc, it is however just a recommendation, If your payments are drastically too low at any point we will email you asking you to have a look at your payments. "
I suggest you take and keep regular meter readings so that you can work out a pattern to you electricity usage and then will be able to make predictions about future usage.
Also check your Usage Charts for previous months to see what pattern they may indicate.
Then work out what you think future costs will be.
Just looking back this is the contents of the welcome email i received from Ovo.
Putting aside any prior knowledge of how energy bills work.
There are quite a few mentions of "fixed".
It doesn't actually say there will be any review over the 12 months based on actual energy consumption which may cause the direct debits to go up and down. There may be further info in the attachments that came with the email, but i didn't look at them at the time, and important information should really be in the email itself rather than in any attachment small print.
It is interesting as my mum was on a fixed cost energy plan for several years, irrespective of the amount of energy she actually used. A few providers offered these plans for a few years. I haven't seen anything like that since then.
I was aware the direct debits could change based on energy use so i didn't notice the ovo wording.
Just MHO, the email is very poorly worded. Not everyone would be able to deduce the direct debit was variable based on usage over the 12 months if they didn't have prior knowledge about how the plan works and the meaning of fixed. It may seem like common sense, but the variable nature of the direct debit should really be made obvious in the email
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Would be better if OVO put the energy (pardon the pun) into providing the customer with clear terms and conditions of their contracts rather than providingchoochy forums to complain about them
Would be better if OVO put the energy (pardon the pun) into providing the customer with clear terms and conditions of their contracts rather than providingchoochy forums to complain about them
I never read the detailed terms and conditions and only skim read the email and checked the meter IDs. So i can't honestly say anything about the terms and conditions either way.
I do agree the email is poorly worded, obviously i don't know what you actually received from OVO.
I may not agree with everything posted on this forum, but i do find it useful background info myself and there are many posters (both ovo employees and customers like ourselves) who i find very informative and helpful.
Glad to hear that you’re finding this community helpful,
Whilst we might not always get things right, by allowing a space for issues to be raised publicly, we can take this feedback on board and hopefully provide advice for others who might have similar issues in future.
I totally appreciate the confusion surrounding the term ‘fixed’ when referring to your plan,
Direct Debit |
We work out your Direct Debit amount by dividing the cost of the energy we think you’ll use in a year by 12. That means your Direct Debit will be £44 a month. |
We’ll run regular Direct Debit reviews to make sure this amount matches your energy use. This is to protect you from paying too little and building up debt. Or having to pay a lump sum of debt in the future. |
Glad to hear that you’re finding this community helpful,
Whilst we might not always get things right, by allowing a space for issues to be raised publicly, we can take this feedback on board and hopefully provide advice for others who might have similar issues in future.
I totally appreciate the confusion surrounding the term ‘fixed’ when referring to your plan,
Direct Debit |
We work out your Direct Debit amount by dividing the cost of the energy we think you’ll use in a year by 12. That means your Direct Debit will be £44 a month. |
We’ll run regular Direct Debit reviews to make sure this amount matches your energy use. This is to protect you from paying too little and building up debt. Or having to pay a lump sum of debt in the future. |
I think that helps, but i think it would also benefit from a statement just after this. Rightly or wrongly some people may not get down to the updated statement. Something more explicit that says your direct debit payments are not fixed and may go up or down depending on how much energy you actually use.
It is still too easy for a cohort of the population to misunderstand i personally think. I suspect my disabled brother may misunderstand if he looked at it for example. And i am not sure my adopted brother would pick up the statement you have changed.
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Thank you for such thoughtful and considered feedback,
I think you’ve raised a really important point and I’m going to make sure this one is passed on to the team behind these communications.
Removing the complexity of the energy industry and making your energy account easier to manage and understand is a vital in our journey to Plan Zero, so getting things right from the very first email we send is key.
As always it’s so nice to see this community providing a space for these discussions - keep up the great valuable contributions!
*edited by mod* I am £512 in credit and do not agree to the proposed increase of Direct Debit from £195 to £364. I therefore request that my monthly payment is not increased while I am in credit. I fully appreciate the unit price increases that will take place on 01/10/22. Thank you. Richard Lewis.
I posted the above to the OVO online chat this afternoon but have yet to receive a response.
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I’m sorry, but you can’t make this kind of request via the OVO Forum as we cannot access your account from here. Please contact the Support Team if you still want to make this change.
In addition, please refrain from posting personal information on the forum as it will affect your safety. If possible, please consider editing out your account number, otherwise it will be removed by a moderator.
Thank you.
What safety issue is there in sharing my account number?
It’s personal information, combine that with a couple of other details and I could easily take over your entire OVO account if I wanted to. Social engineering is pretty powerful after all. However, I don’t use my skills for evil but I still look out for forum members because I want to help you stay safe online.
just ask for your credit back and accept the DD increase, which is a “normal” level of increase in today’s crazy world
Ovo increased my DD without any previous mail or notification and I cannot change it back. I am currently in credit and never been in debit with them neither di I envisage I will be in debit at all in the foreseeable future. Why is it possible for you to increase my debit based on what you think I will use and I cannot reduce my DD based on what I think I will use? With this DD increase my account will be in credit over 300 pounds. Then you will still add to the debit the 66 pounds in order to credit my account? What is this? While I understand energy prices are extremely high right now, I believe this is an extremely wicked act. To what end.. to increase you profits!
If this amount is presented, I don't guarantee it will be paid as I am not prepared for it. I wasnt informed
Hi
If you wish to dispute this one, I’d recommend giving the Collections Team a call on 0800 069 9831. They’ll work something out with you.
With that said, the £66 a month is meant to go to your bank account, rather than stay with OVO.
Thank you very much
Keep submitting readings. The calculations will adapt but it can take three months before changes go through, just to avoid it constantly flying all over the place.
Thank you so much
I’ve tried to stop my DD being doubled - my kids have just left for university, and there’s only me in the house, and I spend most of my time round my partner’s, so there’s a significant portion of time when there’s minimal energy usage. I have a smart meter and the OVO app, so I can see when there’s been usage, and keep an eye on the bill.
I rang through to the customer service centre to ask for it to not be increased - my usage will go down, and I’m £200 in credit.
After much debating with a very enthusiastic agent on the other end, I was told I had no choice, so I offered to pay monthly, and was then told that if I did that, the smart meter would be removed, and a pre-pay meter installed. I’m happy to pay when the bill arrives, but no, this wasn’t an option.
My argument is that my estimated costs/charges are to ‘allow a zero balance at the end of my contract’ - which doesn’t end for 12 months - but hang on, I was with SSE, then arbitrarily moved to OVO, I don’t remember anything about a new 12 month contract? - I def didn’t sign anything, and I’ve been out of contract with SSE for a significant period of time!. I also argue that there ‘projection’ is base upon this year’s usage, when there’s been a massive charge (120Kw in one day!) on may account back in May as an ‘account adjustment’ when moving from SSE.
So, I’m in a new contract I didn’t agree to, I can’t change my DD amount, even though its proven wrong, and can’t go to monthly manual payments for fear of losing my smart meters!
Is all this correct????
Yours annoyingly
Phil
Nope. That doesn’t sound right.
The name’s 186, Blastoise186. I’m one of the forum volunteers here.
If you wish to move to Pay On-Demand, simply cancel the DD BUT be warned that you will lose any active fix deal by doing so. It will also cost you around £200 a year more to be on Simpler Energy On-Demand than Simpler Energy Direct Debit. You would however, get to keep the Smart Meters.
It might be worth talking to the Collections Team for now. They can force a 3 month Direct Debit Review Suspension and discuss a more appropriate payment amount with you. The direct number should be 0800 069 9831.
Just spoke with the number you mentioned Blastoise 186 - many thanks for your reply! - Unfortunately, they refuse to put a DD review suspension on my account, and I’ve been given a ‘temporary’ discount down to £209. Its not that I can’t afford it, its that I’m being forced to pay pre-emptively, and they’ve no basis for assuming I can’t - I’m £150 in credit! Damn, I’m so ruddy annoyed… They apparently need six months reading before they’ll agree to reduce the DD anymore - I’m guessing that SSE never provided any historical info then?...
You’re welcome It’s probably the best you can easily get at the moment. But if you’re still not convinced it’s enough, you could try the Complaints Process via https://ovoenergy.com/feedback . You might get some results that way but be prepared to wait as it’s rammed at the moment.
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