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How can I install independent supply to private electric gates?

  • August 21, 2023
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Hi, Can anyone advise on how to remove supply of electric from one house and have independent supply to gates. Situation is,  we have 5 houses in a gated community. For some reason the builders ran the electric supply from one house to a meter at the gate. This has worked ok up to now, the householder is billed in normal way, takes a reading from meter at gate, works out the cost of gate usage and charges the management company (which is the 5 houses). The householder that has the supply now wants to vacate his property and while it’s empty switch off all power at his mains, leaving no power to the gates. He’s not prepared to leave the fuse to gates on. So we need to find best way to get power to the gates. We’ve looked at solar power but been advised that, looking at photos, we won’t have sufficient sun in the area the gates are. Any advice would be gratefully received, thank you

Best answer by Blastoise186

Updated on 28/07/26 by Ben_OVO

Hi @JANE1867 ,

Just a heads up, I don’t work for OVO.

Tbh this sounds like a solution in search of a problem. Digging up the grounds and messing with the required cabling will not only involve an electrician, but also your DNO and a suitable energy supplier. I can tell you now that even without an official quote… It won’t be cheap.

You need to get together and consider whether this really is the right option, or just wait for the current householder to leave and then get the management company to flip the power back on just to the gates, while leaving the rest of the consumer unit disabled. Chances are, that’d be much cheaper. I feel like the current householder is being a bit selfish here, but that’s a discussion you all need to have between yourselves.

If you do want to split it off - and it may not be worthwhile just for a set of electric gates that barely use much juice - then you’ll need to tread carefully. I must warn you that going down such a route would leave the gates totally out of action during the works.

Ultimately, here’s the deal. Once that householder leaves the property and closes his account with the energy supplier, he no longer has control over the supply and strictly speaking, he would have no further say about what happens to it. Control would automatically go back to the estate agent, landlord, housing association, management company or insert legally responsible entity here who may be willing to restore supply. In effect, once you leave the property and say, sell up or terminate the tenancy agreement, that’s it - you’ve left the place and have no further power over anything that happens there as it’s not yours anymore. That power immediately and automatically passes over to whoever the new owner/tenant/entity is.

This sort of work needs to be first arranged with your District Network Operator. OVO can only carry out new meter connections for domestic household supplies:

 

 

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BPLightlog
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August 24, 2023

I realise that it would be easier to tap in directly at the gate (presumably there’s a cable connection box) but I’m always wary of leaving a potentially live cable ‘loose’ even when safely terminated. 
I had assumed that the supply via house 5 would be via a feed from the distribution board at the property which would have its own circuit RCD/RCBO but of course I don’t know. 

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JANE1867Author
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August 24, 2023

hi Jeffus 

I have no idea. I do know when I organised repairs early this year by proper, long established, gate guy, that he didn’t need house at number 5 to be in, so from that Iam assuming he was able to isolate at gate.

Iam told by house 3 that electrician they have engaged did look at gate in person.

Call me doubting Thomas but because house 3 are saying it is a quote (not estimate) but only now majority have agreed will they get it in writing and at that stage we will know who the electrician is. 

House 3 organised the last yearly gate check, the invoice was hand written, gates broke down 4 weeks later. Same electrician came  back - took him 4-5 weeks to arrive - I happened to see him and said he couldn’t fix because wiring a birds nest and not something he wanted to touch. 

That’s when I got involved (it’s actually my very elderly mum that lives in house 1) and got proper gate guy out.

Strangely, and this is a personal moan, no one else questioned house 3 about electrician found then or this time. When I got gate guy I supplied full break down of costs, guarantee of work & time schedule, which was scrutinised by houses 2, 3 & 4.

Maybe because Iam much older and only female looking into it 🤔😁

JANE1867Author
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August 24, 2023

BPLightlog, I know that house 5 has a fuse for the gates in his fuse box in his kitchen - he told me that if there is a power cut he has had to flip back on in the past and if repairs needed he has turned of power to gates - so, as per above, not to sure, could be gate guy we had earlier in year didn’t need to have power off to do repairs.

There is a meter box to register it’s usage at gate - I’ll see about getting a photo of it, going over there now 😀

cheers

JANE1867Author
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August 25, 2023

HI

Took some pictures, hopefully help. As I understand it, power supply runs from house 5, (one to the right in picture of houses) under bushes to the gate. There are two cabinets, lower one has the meter. There are cables coming from top of higher cabinet (that’s locked, historically told that it has birds nest of wiring in it) going up the side of gate pillar.  I remember one of the companies that came to do repairs  saying lots of cabling is inside the brick pillars. Electrician they have engaged is same guy who wasn’t happy to do repairs last year because wiring such a mess .

One other question - is it safe & legal to have a meter cabinet low down on an outside wall?

 

BPLightlog
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Super User
August 25, 2023

That’s useful to see. The external boxes are fine as long as they’re designed for the task (it looks like they are).

The meter is presumably used as a ‘sub-meter’ (ie not on direct supply) for the purposes you’ve described. I can also see a small distribution board with an isolator and trips (possibly MCB?) so that’s what has been quoted to be replaced. 
The set up looks quite straightforward albeit the main feed from house 5 consisting of a twin & earth cable more suited to an internal situation. The armoured cable will be better protected.

The cabling in the meter box looks a little Heath-Robinson with insulating tape over an earth joint (that should really be remade).

Overall, the basic premise of an armoured cable feed underground to the gate supply should be ok but you’re still faced with the same potential future issue feeding from house 3 as previously mentioned. 

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JANE1867Author
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August 25, 2023

 

hi BPLightlog 

Many thanks, I feel much more comfortable about the proposed re-wiring now.

Two of us are really un-happy about not seeking a permanent solution, but we have been out voted, nothing we can do other than lodge our concerns. The other 3 households want it sorted as quickly as possible, not prepared for me to contact SSE and find out about independent supply. 

Many thanks to you,  Blastoise186 and Jeffus for your advice and words of wisdom, very much appreciated.

cheers, Jane

 

Newcomer
October 29, 2024

Hello, we have electric gates which are shared among three separate properties but the electricity is currently charged to my house smart meter. I would like to get a separate smart meter for this with the bills being shared equally. Please could someone advise how I might go about this and the possible costs involved. Thank you.

BPLightlog
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Super User
October 29, 2024

There was a similar question a while ago but I’m not sure if it got resolved. 
There would be a few hurdles to clear:

- A legal entity (person or organisation) would need to be responsible

- Depending on the location surrounds, a suitable secure ‘box’ would need to be arranged for the meter

- There would be the need to connect to the supply cable which would involve work by the local DNO

So it could work out to be an expensive project 

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BPLightlog
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Super User
October 29, 2024

Here is that previous thread by the way 

 

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Newcomer
October 29, 2024

Thank you, this is very useful.