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Best answer by Abby_OVO

Updated on 22/07/26 by Abby_OVO

Hey @Turnip 

 

I’d be in agreement with our volunteers on this one from everything you’ve explained.

 

My question is and cannot get ovo to understand is if telly switched off it does not register a usage, but my econ 7 switched off at wall plus at master switch registering nearly ten quid for no reason

 

The meters don’t have on/off buttons and continuously record your usage - they cannot be switched off. With E7, your meter works on 2 timeframes - a day and a night rate (times vary per area), when the day rate stops clocking, the night rate kicks in. No matter if you’ve switched off the immersion or storage heaters, you can’t switch of the actual meter.

 

1 unit overnight is not an unusual or unreasonable thing to see, for things like the fridge which most people leave on all night, 365 days a year.

 

I understand you believe it’s not recording this usage as you’ve said everything is off, but even if you’ve switched the storage or immersion off, the meter will still clock any other usage during this time on your night rate - so if the fridge is on, the meter will clock that usage. Similarly, if you were to cook a meal or make a cup of tea during the off-peak time, this usage would be clocked on the off-peak rate, as that would be the only register clocking - the meter never stops recording your usage. They’re not going to not charge you for usage overnight - hence why the meters can’t be switched off.

 

Unless you’ve switched the actual electric off at the mains, and you therefore don’t even have the fridge running or any access to power, so therefore no usage could even occur, then that would be the only case we could imagine seeing absolutely 0.0kWh being used.

Otherwise we’d expect there to be at least minimal usage throughout the night rate. If it’s recording less usage than you think, and maybe more on the day rate than expected, then it may be that the time-switch is faulty, in that case, the meter would need to be replaced. See below a similar thread where the time-switch was the faulty for no usage recording overnight:

 

 

Our volunteers have tried their best to help and to understand the circumstances, and have given you all of the information that we would and then some, as they’ve even got experience with their own set ups to help back all of this up. 

 

  

If this is so why does my econ 7 meter not charge for the usage of tosster and kettle when im up at 5 in morn? It still only registers 1 unit.

Do the sums:

  • Kettle 3kW x 3 mins > 9 kW-minutes  
  • Toaster ditto > 9 kW-minutes
  • Total 18 kW-minutes ÷ 60 = 0.3 kWh

If your fridge, freezer etc. are consuming say 0.5 kWh overnight, this will register as 1 unit. Add together: 0.5 + 0.3 = 0.8 kWh. Still only registering as 1 unit.

 

 

I’ve linked below to a helpful topic on Economy 7 if you wish to take a read: 

 

 

If you’re still debating this matter then you can speak with the Support Team, but as Blastoise has said, the likelihood of the meter being faulty is slim, especially based on the information you’ve provided over the forum. It may be worth getting the smart meter installed so that you can view your usage in more detail and this may show you what’s using energy overnight. 

 

I’ve linked to another topic on situations where the meter is clocking too fast, this may help you judge whether you want to proceed with testing or not if you were considering going ahead with it.

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BPLightlog
Super User
Super User
June 22, 2023

Hi @Turnip , can you say a little more about this? Not sure what you mean by totally switched off. 
It will depend on your meter but normally the off peak (night) register is active during the off peak hours. Unless you don’t use the off peak, I’m not sure why you have E7 as the day rate is generally more expensive. 

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Blastoise186
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Super User
June 22, 2023

Unfortunately, 1 unit a night would also be far too small to justify a Meter Accuracy Test to see whether the meter is faulty as it probably wouldn’t even show up on a Creep Test. If it was spinning a lot faster, then I’d recommend one but I’d rather not make you pay £160 in this case.

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TurnipAuthor
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June 22, 2023

I have econ heaters, and emersion, since moving in 12 odd years ago always on last march decided to turn off emersion , but noticed my meter though switched off was registering a unit per night

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
June 22, 2023

Ah ok. In that case it’s probably other stuff like your fridge that’s using electricity during E7 hours. Remember that ALL usage during those times is clocked under the Night Rate, not just heaters.

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TurnipAuthor
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June 22, 2023

My question is and cannot get ovo to understand is if telly switched off it does not register a useage, but my econ 7 switched off at wall plus at master switch registering nearly ten quid for no reason

TurnipAuthor
Rank 4
June 22, 2023

Had these tests but person came out said cannot do econ 7 as during day

TurnipAuthor
Rank 4
June 22, 2023

Economy 7 is seperate to all wiring does not run fridge etc at night

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
June 22, 2023

As mentioned though, other stuff may still be using energy. Here’s a few examples:

  • Fridge
  • Freezer
  • Wi-Fi Router - this needs to stay on at all times, please don’t turn it off overnight
  • Lights

All of this stuff will clock under Night Rate regardless of wiring. Economy 7 wiring merely turns certain things off during the day but it’s all metered the same way regardless.

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TurnipAuthor
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June 22, 2023

Blastoise you like ovo are missunderstanding econ 7 

TurnipAuthor
Rank 4
June 22, 2023

Sorry you do not understand econ 7