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February 27, 2023
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THTC / Separate Radio Teleswitch and Meter- Can I get a smart meter?

  • February 27, 2023
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Hoping someone here can help because this has been an on-going battle since before OVO took over SSE and it’s gotten progressively worse recently. 

I live in a house that’s meters haven’t been checked, inspected, whatever since at least 1993.  I have two meters - one for my storage heaters and water tank, and one for standard electricity.  I’ve been trying to get this changed to either a smart meter if available OR just a standard single meter with a day or night rate. 

I have email chain(s) going on with SSE/OVO (One email chain is using @sseenergyservices.com and the other is @ovo.com hence posting here) that I seem to just be going around in circles.  I finally got through to the Electric Heating Team (EHT) about two weeks ago who changed me onto a single rate THTC tarrif, so both my standard and heating meters are at the same rate - but based on the readings that I’ve been providing, it’s still nearly 500 a month just for two storage heaters and a water tank.

Has anyone else had problems being switched to a single meter?  It’s driving me insane and I can’t change providers even if I wanted to because I’m currently bent over a barrel with an old meter system that they won’t change that no one else supports.

 

Edit: Just to add, it’s Radio Teleswitch Total Heat Total Control (THTC) to be specific.

Best answer by Emmanuelle_OVO

Updated on 16/05/25 by Emmanuelle_OVO:

 

Update on RTS shutdown:

 

As part of the RTS Project development, we are really happy to share with you our progress:

 

As you may be aware, the RTS signal that instructs some of our meters when to move to the “Off Peak Period”  will be closing down soon and we need to arrange for all of our RTS customers to have a meter exchange so they don’t lose any of their meter functionality.

 

The RTS signal will end for our customers on 30 June 2025. The period between 1 July - 30 September 2025 will then be used to close-down the RTS signal and allow us to manage any unexpected customers impacted.

 

After a very successful pilot, from the 17th June 2024 we will begin writing to our Economy 10 RTS customers to invite them to call us to arrange for their meter exchange. 

 

We are continuing to work at pace to enable the same solution for the majority of our other RTS customers and our aim is to begin writing to these customers in Aug 2024. 

 

We will continue to update you on our progress.

Hey @Noz1954,

 

I don’t know the exact figures, I’ll see if I can find out. I’d imagine a few thousand as Blastoise advised.

 

We’ve had a couple of customers on the Forum who’ve advised they have THTC set ups, would be interesting to get a conversation going. 

 

 

We’ve got an FAQ on exotic types which might have some useful information:

 

 

291 replies

Newcomer
October 27, 2023

thanks

Newcomer
January 8, 2024

Hello

i Have been having a on running complaint to SSE/OVO since i moved into my rented flat.

one of my meter boxes does not work which is the THTC  and i have told them multiple times and sent through photos , time and time again i get told someone will contact me to help get this removed.

Each time i had sent through meter readings i get a email back saying incorrect reading when i have sent them proof and called them multiple times as only one meter box works . i have also been treated as a liar and been told there is no way only one works. 

at the end of my first year i had moved in  i had got to some sort of resolution when i finally spoke to someone that knew what had happened he had to go back through all my bills for that year and set the one that wasn't working to 0, after he had done that i was actually in credit and was due money back , he had then told me that it should all be sorted and my next bill would be correct . my next bill wasn't and it was another estimated bill. countless times i have contacted them and sent photos since then . Nobody seems to update my account when i have contacted them.

I am now being hit with extortionate estimated bills when i live in a small one bedroomed flat and work 5 days a week . i had also been hit with some sort of catch up bill and 1500 was added on to my bill last year and now i am 2 grand in debt on my account as they keep on adding bills . i am now in contact with the complaints team and they have just put this through to the billing team they are now still saying this is correct . It is impossible for any of this to be correct  even my sister who lives in a 2 bedroomed house does not get charged anywhere near what i have . i do not know what to do i am in constant stress from this and I'm now getting sent letters saying bailiffs will come to my door even though i have told them i am trying to sort this out .

Any help would be appreciated .

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
January 8, 2024

Hi @Celt261 ,

Dead THTC Meters are currently hard to replace unfortunately. Solutions are on the way, but for now try https://ovoenergy.com/feedback and scroll down a bit - you’ll see more powerful resolution options further down the page.

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elljay
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January 8, 2024

Sounds like a complete nightmare @Celt261! 😮

 

Not sure if it’s been eight weeks since you raised a formal complaint with Ovo.  If it has and you’re getting no where, log a complaint with https://www.energyombudsman.org/ and they will investigate and issue a Decision that instructs Ovo what to do to fix the issue.  I’m having an issue with my FIT payments from Ovo.  I logged an issue with the Energy Ombudsman 28 days ago and we’re already at the point where Ovo have 14 days to raise any issues with the OE’s decision, which includes paying me £150 for the hassle Ovo have caused!

Blastoise186
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Super User
January 8, 2024

Unfortunately, the Ombudsman can’t do much if stocks of replacement THTC Meters don’t exist anywhere at any supplier. They’ve not been made in years and the last known manufacturer Horstmann (now known as Secure) quit making them over 10 years ago.

Smart Meter support for THTC is coming though.

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elljay
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Newcomer
January 8, 2024

They can’t magic up a meter no, but they can insist that Ovo put a sensible process in place and maybe offer compensation for the hassle and worry and stop the threats of bailiffs when @Celt261 is obviously trying to do their best to get the issue sorted in a sensible way!

Newcomer
January 8, 2024

Yes @elljay it is thanks for your reply this has been goin on nearly 3 years now I have been on to the ombudsman website today so will try get that finished , I know about the the thtc meter but it’s the fact they are still trying to ask me for two meter readings and not taking my One meter reading even though they know it dosent work .

elljay
Newcomer
Newcomer
January 8, 2024

Three years! That’s just horrendous!  My issue’s been going on since last October and that’s doing my head in!

 

Takes a while to put all the info into the Ombudsman’s site, but definitely worth it - they’ll tell Ovo to sort it out properly. 👍

Emmanuelle_OVO
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Retired Moderator
January 9, 2024

Hey @Celt261,

 

I’m sorry to hear this, 

 

I’ll ask Forum_Support to reach out, please keep an eye on your private messages. 

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January 18, 2024

OVO insists on sending me emails inviting me to install a smart meter, but no news on changes to my THTC set up so I can’t take them up on the kind offer. April is 3 months away when an answer is supposed to be found for the radiotelemetry switch off. 

Is there any other update on a solution? 

Also, my house is on the Tay river, new builds have smart meters so why can’t OVO swap me onto these? Given that OVO took over SSE contracts in this area, they should know if this is possible. Who do I contact to find out?