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Updated on 14/11/24 by Abby_OVO

 

Check out our dedicated RTS FAQs page for more information.

 

RTS Shutdown Update July 2024

 

Hey! The name’s 186, Blastoise186 and I’m one of the Forum Volunteers who you’ve maybe seen helping around here. I’ve been working with OVO to get the most up to date information possible for you and they’ve passed over the following helpful updates and details.

One of the recent hot questions we’ve seen on the Forum (for a while now) is what’s happening to RTS meters. The RTS (Radio Teleswitch Service) is shutting down soon, which especially affects complex ones like THTC (Total Heat Total Control). I’ve covered this before in one of my older posts linked below – so check that out if you’re interested in why this is happening. That post already has many questions covered, so this one will focus purely on the next steps.

If you’re interested in what all the different meter types are/were - just ask below. Not sure if you’ve got RTS? No problem – give OVO a ring and they’ll be able to let you know. You can reach out to them here.

All caught up? Great, let’s get started on this latest update. This is the final piece of the puzzle - the hot off the press information about exactly what’s happening next.

I’d like to apologise for the extended delay in getting this out. While I can - and do - act independently of OVO, such critical content like this still has to be reviewed and approved before it can go live to make sure it’s as accurate as possible. 

So without further ado, the big question…

 

I’ve got an RTS Meter, what are my options for smart meters?

Good question – as you may know, these meters can be pretty complex, but OVO have spent a good amount of time updating their systems to manage this change for their customers.

I’m pleased to finally reveal what OVO’s plans are for everyone with an RTS Meter, whether it be Economy 7, Economy 10, THTC (Total Heat Total Control), Total Living Control, Standard Economy & Heating Load, Heatwise, Storage Heating Control, Flexiheat, Superdeal or basically any other RTS Meter.

The long story short version is exactly what many of you wanted to hear - OVO will be contacting all RTS customers to sort the change to a non RTS meter. Even better, since everything will run locally and be controlled by the meter itself, your heating and hot water will continue to work even if the signal to the meter temporarily drops out.

But what will you get?

If you’re ready to upgrade and your meter is listed below as upgradeable, check out smart-booking.ovoenergy.com

With another supplier? Please contact their customer service team for this as OVO can only upgrade meters belonging to OVO customers.

 

Affected OVO supported RTS Meters/Tariffs

If you AREN’T in a LMA (Load Managed Area*) - 

*A Load Managed Area is an area that's not as easy to maintain, like small islands or densely populated communities

 

Economy 7

Available now!

All customers with an Economy 7 (both RTS and Non-RTS) are eligible for smart meters. Everything else will stay the same - it’s just a straightforward meter swap in 99% of cases.

 

Economy 10

Available now!

OVO has just started to roll out Economy 10 support on smart meters. You should have already had a letter to arrange this change, if not, give OVO a call on 0330 303 5063.

 

All other RTS meters (THTC, Superdeal etc)

Coming Soon

Here are the 2 possible routes you could go down.

 

Coming Soon – Rollout with OVO starts around August 2024

Good news! In this situation, you can go for Economy 7, Economy 9, Economy 10 or a single rate meter - totally up to you. Your letter will invite you to call OVO’s specialist team who are on hand to discuss the set up within your property. They’ll help you come to a decision that best suits your lifestyle.

As part of the process, your THTC meters will be taken out and replaced with a shiny new smart meter (where possible) running on whichever tariff you picked.

 

If you ARE in a Load Managed Area

Coming soon! Waiting for an availability estimate

For this small group in Northern Scotland, I’m afraid you’ll have to remain on THTC at this time due to the DNO restrictions that are still in effect. However, you’re still going to get smart meters as promised - OVO are working on a solution for you and will post more information as soon as possible

 

RTS Meters/Tariffs from other suppliers

No details yet - feel free to help me build this out. If you’re with any other supplier and have info on what’s happening to your meter, feel free to post the details below and if it looks good, I’ll add it here - with full credit of course.

 

What if I don’t want a smart meter and/or refuse to have the upgrade?

If you don’t want the upgrade, then the RTS Service will eventually end regardless, and I’m really sorry, but I can’t guarantee what’ll happen to your heating and/or hot water, so I strongly recommend against taking that risk. These changes must happen and must happen soon.

All I can say is that many of these RTS Meters are getting older now, and while the designers did include fail-safes to cover RTS Service outages, these were only designed for short-term outages - not a total and permanent shutdown. Just as I can’t guarantee what’ll happen to your heating and hot water, OVO can’t guarantee how long the fail-safe will last for - or if it’ll even work at all on your specific meter.

Forum Volunteers on The OVO Forum may also be unable to provide advice and support for these meters post end-of-life to the same extent as we have previously, which means we’ll probably recommend you go direct to smart meters. We’ll still try to help out if we can - but our options would be limited.

 

If you have any further questions, please do leave a comment and one of the OVO moderators will chase this up for us.

As part of the upgrade, everything will be done in one go - including selecting a new energy plan.

Please call OVO on 0330 303 5063 or the number in the letter/email to arrange this.


Cheers Blastoise 186


I think the advice is to wait until the new meter is installed and working and then compare the plan it’s set to to any others that may be available to you. Since there are only a few days left of the current price cap period, the rates offered for 1 October onwards will be the ones to look at. These may figure on OVO’s tariff pages a few days (often a couple of weeks) before then, so keep a close eye on them. 

The best plan to go for depends on what sort of tariff (rates and timings) you’re currently enjoying, if it matches your requirements. For example, Economy 10 allows for a daytime boost for storage heaters at the cheaper rate, while Economy 7 doesn’t. The ‘cheap’ rate varies a great deal from plan to plan, so you’d better have to hand the numbers for your actual consumption in kWh over the past year* at both peak and offpeak times in order to be able to compare the various plans on offer. 

You can see all of OVO’s tariffs on this page: Our prices | OVO Energy, while using the Get a quote page gives you a simple comparison between recommended plans. Beware that the rates on the plans page are exclusive of VAT while those on the quote page include VAT. 

You may be able to pick a likely-looking plan before the meter exchange, in which case you could tell Support what you want. There’s no guaranteeing that the message will get all the way to those involved, but it’s worth trying. 
  


Dig out your latest bill and the one for the same period a year ago. Subtract the latest closing meter readings from the ones from last year to find the annual consumption. 

 


Hey @ByeeTHTC 

 

I’m really sorry to hear about the trouble you’ve been having since the smart meter was installed. Sadly meter exchanges with THTC meters do quite often come with some problem along the way, as Firedog mentioned.

 

I’m glad Firedog was able to help advice you on the right path. Please do keep us update with how you get on getting the remote commands sent by the Support Team.

 

Hi Abby, can you help? Just had a visit from MDS who can do nothing for this problem so left again. I can’t get past the initial call handlers who only book an emergency visit and do not listen to anything else.

If it helps since the last message I’ve determined the meter is switching the storage heaters circuits in. But on E7 times and with no E7 tariff. They should be E10 timings with E10 tariff.


Do they really think all these  difficult non-standard situations can be sorted by June 2025? I doubt it.

I believe they will. The absolute final deadline to finish decommissioning is September 2025 - there is a built-in tolerance to tidy up stragglers as part of that. However, June 2025 should still be considered the deadline for booking upgrades because there WILL be a rush right towards the end.


Do they really think all these  difficult non-standard situations can be sorted by June 2025? I doubt it.

I believe they will. The absolute final deadline to finish decommissioning is September 2025 - there is a built-in tolerance to tidy up stragglers as part of that. However, June 2025 should still be considered the deadline for booking upgrades because there WILL be a rush right towards the end.

 

Well there are likely to be tens of thousands just in Aberdeenshire.


There’s a lot of engineers at OVO’s disposal. More can be drafted in from around the country if needed.


There’s a lot of engineers at OVO’s disposal. More can be drafted in from around the country if needed.

 

Would help if a job was done right first time and call handlers could direct problems.


The telemetry gained from multiple sources - including the OVO Forum - is being fed back into the system and is being actively used to resolve that stuff.

As with any big project, teething issues are inevitable.


Hey @ByeeTHTC 

 

I’m really sorry to hear about the trouble you’ve been having since the smart meter was installed. Sadly meter exchanges with THTC meters do quite often come with some problem along the way, as Firedog mentioned.

 

I’m glad Firedog was able to help advice you on the right path. Please do keep us update with how you get on getting the remote commands sent by the Support Team.

Here’s a suggestion then! Why not get the problems & bugs sorted out before pushing us to get these meters installed before a probable unobtainable deadline next June. Not just THTC but all the systems whether E10, Superdeal or whatever. I suspect the incentives for OVO to install smart meters are financial, hence pushing installations before older systems are ready & proven to receive them without problems.


That’s what the industry spent over a decade figuring out - but you can’t 100% test for absolutely every possible snag upfront. Some stuff will always slip the net.


Hey @ByeeTHTC 

 

Sorry you’ve not been able to get any further forward with this. 

 

I’ll have our Forum_Support reach out to help get this resolved for you. Keep an eye out for a private message soon here: https://forum.ovoenergy.com/inbox/overview.


Hey @ByeeTHTC 

 

Sorry you’ve not been able to get any further forward with this. 

 

I’ll have our Forum_Support reach out to help get this resolved for you. Keep an eye out for a private message soon here: https://forum.ovoenergy.com/inbox/overview.


Thank you Abby 


So thanks to help from @Abby_OVO this situation is probably resolved.

 

All advice from phone mail & engineer visits was completely wrong and a waste of time. The meter was just installed with the wrong programming which back office needed to update as I first thought and told advisors many times. 

 

Many thanks. I’d hope lessons are learnt but judging by the many threads here and talking to other customers they aren’t.


I would be interested in hearing if anybody who migrated from SSE on the Suoerdeal  tariff running with 2 meters has successfully had an E10 smart meter installed without problems. I feel I am being pushed into this upgrade before it has been tested & installed correctly. In fact a ‘guinea pig’!


Many thanks. I’d hope lessons are learnt but judging by the many threads here and talking to other customers they aren’t.

Just a word of caution - 99.9999999999% of OVO’s happy customers never post here, so we’re unable to give you a totally balanced view just from the Forum alone. By the same token, 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of folks who had their problems solved never come back to tell us, so it’s also hard to judge that metric reliably unless you have total access to absolutely everything.

I would be interested in hearing if anybody who migrated from SSE on the Suoerdeal  tariff running with 2 meters has successfully had an E10 smart meter installed without problems. I feel I am being pushed into this upgrade before it has been tested & installed correctly. In fact a ‘guinea pig’!

It’s gotta happen sooner or later I’m afraid - it’s either do the upgrade or risk your heating/hot water getting permanently knocked out. We cannot make any promises whatsoever as to what your specific RTS Meter will do post-shutdown or how it’ll cope with/handle having no control signals so we have to assume the worst-case scenario of the meter completely bricking itself immediately.

Sometimes, it’s also better to play the canary role and beta test new solutions out in the field before a wider roll-out. OVO knows I’m always up for letting them beta test stuff with me because ultimately I want the same thing as OVO does - the opportunity to squash showstopping bugs before they snarl up absolutely everyone is extremely beneficial.


Just an update after my new smartmeter installation today (17/9).  The engineer came on time, was very informative and knowledgeable, obviously sussed that I was a bit apprehensive. He explained briefly what he was going to do, confirmed the smartmeter was programmed for E10 as requested and proceeded to remove our 2 meters. After all installation was complete he explained, to me and hubby, very simply what he had done. He also said that he had tested the on/ off switch for our heating and water and it was working as it should. Showed us how to operate the IHD and gave us a few tips re lecky usage.  So far, the meter has switched between off peak and peak, as it should, so I am very relieved. Thought it might be nice to hear a positive on the THTC epic!

 


Thanks Joyce for your positive reply, good of you to post. I assume that having 2 meters you were on Superdeal or something similar. My situation is now on hold for probably some time as I require a DNO attendance before a smart meter fitting. Time frame for DNO to attend could be 2 months so do not expect the smart meter to be in & running until 2025! Not risking an incorrect meter during the winter!


Smart meter installed today. Seemed a bit tricky and took 2 hours but things seem to be working so far. Engineer local and very pleasant. Left everything tidy.  Time will tell if the timing and all the connections to the solar panels and EV work as they should. 🤞


Thanks, @Cassie511, for reporting back. Please come back again if you encounter any hiccups down the line; things might take a few days to settle down completely, so no rush!


Hi @Cassie511,

 

We appreciate you coming back to share your feedback, this is useful for others that may be in the same position.

 

I’m glad to hear that it went well so far. Please let us know if you come into any issues.


Just dropping in to say thanks to the forum!

Standard smart meter was fitted on Tuesday, all went well apart for a heated discussion that I didn't want a 5 port meter fitted!

The smart meter started sending data I can see on the bright app (although it's skipped Wednesday's data!)....not sure how long it will be for OVO to catch up with meter change?

Thanks again for your help and sanity check.

 


Six weeks is the industry average 


By the way, I can confirm that OVO has definitely started sending out the RTS Shutdown letters - they’re also marked as URGENT in very clear text and the header is something along the lines of We need to replace your RTS Meters before they stop working.

I saw someone with one of those letters while I was on a train yesterday. That’s good enough for me.

So I got the email asking me to phone OVO to make an appointment to get my father’s THTC meter replaced. I called OVO straight away - only to be told there are no appointments available. 

I Then followed the link on the front post of this thread - again tells me to call OVO but to have taken a reading and have models of storage heaters and type of water heating available. None of this was asked in the phone call and now sitting in limbo again. 

Going to read the rest of this thread, but have been given no tariff info, and don’t know if it would have been simpler to have an economy 7 or economy 10 meter fitted which then means not tied into a single energy supplier.  This is very frustrating - I will try replying to the email OVO have sent us with information required and asking about tariff information and how the new meter will work. 


Give it a bit more time before calling again - more appointment slots will open up soon.

Long story short, the new meter would be a Smart Meter that does everything all existing Smart Meters do in the same way they do it for Economy 7/10 - the Meter will control everything locally without the need for remote signals. Otherwise, it’ll behave like THTC in that heating/hot water will run at the agreed times only.

The tariff it’ll run on will be whatever tariff you agree to migrate to. We can’t say here for sure what you’ll get though, as it’s account-specific stuff so you need to ask OVO.


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