New heating system but struggling to get the right tariff

​@juliamc yes i think thats the best thing to do, i can text him and he is quite approachable....so what i will do is contact him.  Thats a thought it could be where the boiler was but don't remember seeing it…i have read that sometimes they are on the roof?! Seems a little odd if you are supposed to read them.   By the way i only have one water tank not two as well. I will let you know what i find out especially as i now know i have to leave Ovo but i can carry on talking to you all for advice....i thought that would have to stop! 

​@Peter E ​@Nukecad ​@BPLightlog  i knew something was afoot regarding Storage heating....but its not a fossil fuel heating is  it?  I suppose the government want everyone on Air Source don't they?

There is some wording on this box which mentions the loft … might be worth having a closer look 

​@juliamc  sorry just seen your message i will take a photo of inside too.

It’s not about fossil fuels as such but more storage heaters are designed to build up their heat with overnight electricity which isn’t always the best for low emissions.

There will be what are called Tou (time of use) tariffs which do supply lower cost electricity at certain times, it’s just that those times won’t necessarily correspond to nighttime use

It's not fossil fuel heating but it is inefficient compared to a heat pump. With a storage heater you get the same amount of heat out as you put in with electricity. 

With a heat pump you can get three or four times as much heat out for the same amount of electricity. It's complicated but moving heat from the outside to the inside (sounds impossible but it's true) is easier that generating the heat directly. So it's basically a third or a quarter of the price in electricity for the same amount of heat. I'll restrain my inner physicist and stop there.

Peter

Ah, I was thinking of the electric shower and your new electric water heater. No it’s absolutely not a requirement to be with OVO to use this forum. I’m with Octopus as they have a smart tariff which I use as we have an electric car. We also have solar and battery, and a heat pump, which was a big improvement on the previous heating which was gas powered warm air. 

The imminent demise of Economy 7 has been mentioned on occasion ever since I first became personally involved ten years ago. The source you quote here is one of two I found, interestingly both from commercial enterprises keen to consult with and advise housing providers at vast expense on how to proceed when the properties they own no longer have any affordable heating option. I haven’t yet found any authoritative basis for the pronouncement, but I’d expect there to be one, from the energy suppliers’ and networks’ industry bodies if no-one else. ‘By 2030’ is only three years away, so well within medium-term budgeting scopes. 

Where can I direct my landlady to find official notification that steps will have to be taken within a year or two to ensure my house remains both inhabitable and affordable? 

​@juliamc Octopus is where i am going too they do have an Economy 7 tarrif Snug Octopud i believe its called but not in use at 6he moment due to the war. So have suggested a variable tarriff.

You're right ​@Firedog in that there appears to be no official line on terminating E7 and not from any Ofgem source where you would expect it to be originating from. I suspect that it is the situation that you are in along with millions of others that there is no equivalent tariff that you could move to without being penalised.

I suspect, however, suppliers will eventually say they are not prepared to take on new customers for E7 and if you want to switch then you have to choose another tariff. The other thing that may happen is that they will continue to push the night and day rate closer together until there is no significant difference as they have been doing for years if not a decade and that may be the way they effectively abolish it.

Peter