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Hi, hope that you can help.

We had solar panels fitted yesterday with a battery.

i downloaded and setup the solis cloud app. This shows when the battery is charging or discharging but does not show any love input from the panels or the grid. Though in the case of the grid it shows an overall input amount. Do I need to play with the settings? Or have the sensors not been correctly set up?

TIA. 

Hey @Stuthesaint,

 

Sorry- I don’t know much about the Solis Cloud App. 

 

We do have a few members I know who have Solar Panels who might have the App- @sylm_2000 @PeterR1947 @EverythingNeedsAUserName? They may have had a similar experience.

 

If not, it might be worth getting in touch with the installers. 

 

We do have some similar threads that might contain some helpful information:

 

 

 

 

Hope this helps. 


Sorry, can’t help, mine’s a Fronius


Sorry, SolarEdge for the panels, and LuxPower for the batteries. 


Hi @Stuthesaint have you seen anything further on your system? I use solar PV myself and although not a Solis system, they are all pretty similar. 
There are a few in the forum who do have Solis and it seems that it is common for the current clamps (which detect energy being produced and used) to be installed back to front. 
Can you show a picture of what you see on the app? Perhaps we can help from there. 


Hi @Stuthesaint 

i wonder if you managed to solve this problem with the data you were seeing on the app. I have had Solar and a battery system fitting and seem to be having the exact same problem. I can see the battery charging/consumption and the energy the house is using but cannot see the PV yield or the import/export (see photo) 

thanks for any advice 

 

 


Hi @Cope as I’ve mentioned earlier on this thread, it seems a common problem with the clamps which measure the current flow to be installed the wrong way around (they are ‘direction’ sensitive) and so this might be the cause. They look something like this near your meter and there should be two  

There’s an arrow on the side which is difficult to see but generally should point towards the meter.


We bought a house with solar panels fitted (pre FIT removal) 4 years ago. In the last few weeks, we have had a 7.2 kWH battery and AC inverter fitted by Greenscape.

When I look at the Solis Cloud app I am puzzled by some of the traces and wonder if more experienced owners can explain what is going on. Below is a trace I

 screen-captured about 2 p.m. today.

 

 

See lower graphic showing traces of the various outputs. I am baffled by what happens after about 10 a.m. The sun was shining steadily then and the PV output was rising. As the battery was now fully charged (purple state of charge trace is at 100%) , I expected  the system would start exporting to the grid. But the orange load trace suddenly rises by about 1.5 kW to be in perfect sync with the yellow PV trace and remain there….this is complete nonsense! The load in the home was minimal at that time and in any case it would be a miracle if it followed the PV output exactly. Yet the top graphic seems to confirm that the load (1.63 kW) is just below the PV output (1.7 kW) 

The net effect is that because the home load is wrongly documented as always being within a few watts of the PV output, nothing is available to export and I am denied this FIT income!

Can anyone explain this, please?

Stephen


Hi @SJC , as often happens, these measurement views can be quite complex. 
It looks to me as though your system is programmed to charge the battery overnight and then it is used until around 8am you have a short spike of usage. After this and towards 10am there is good generation but the battery SOC doesn’t respond until that 10am point - this could be the sign of an imbalance in the battery voltages. 
You then have some usage and this ‘appears’ to be maintained until almost 2pm. 
It would be useful to know what your energy consumption looks like (from a smart meter) over that time. Overall the stats of yield, charge etc look ok and if the last part of your graph doesn’t correspond to usage at that point, perhaps the system was exporting (from PV generation rather than the battery) but your measuring CT would (in that case) be pointing the wrong way.
Any export doesn’t necessarily apply to FIT (unless you are on a measured scheme) as FIT is generation of course. 
 


We bought a house with solar panels fitted (pre FIT removal) 4 years ago. In the last few weeks, we have had a 7.2 kWH battery and AC inverter fitted by Greenscape.

When I look at the Solis Cloud app I am puzzled by some of the traces and wonder if more experienced owners can explain what is going on. Below is a trace I

 screen-captured about 2 p.m. today.

 

 

See lower graphic showing traces of the various outputs. I am baffled by what happens after about 10 a.m. The sun was shining steadily then and the PV output was rising. As the battery was now fully charged (purple state of charge trace is at 100%) , I expected  the system would start exporting to the grid. But the orange load trace suddenly rises by about 1.5 kW to be in perfect sync with the yellow PV trace and remain there….this is complete nonsense! The load in the home was minimal at that time and in any case it would be a miracle if it followed the PV output exactly. Yet the top graphic seems to confirm that the load (1.63 kW) is just below the PV output (1.7 kW) 

The net effect is that because the home load is wrongly documented as always being within a few watts of the PV output, nothing is available to export and I am denied this FIT income!

Can anyone explain this, please?

Stephen

HI,

 

I am in almost the same situation as you, how did you solve this please? TIA


HI,

 

I am in almost the same situation as you, how did you solve this please? TIA

What are you seeing @luciannae ?

I have noticed that for some inverters, Solis have issued a firmware update which has corrected readings and usage. 


Dear Luciannae,

I raised the matter with my battery installers and they came and had another look at the installation and fixed the problem. I think it was a matter of some sensors having been installed the wrong way round.

 

Best Wishes,

Stephen


My installation was on 17th July, 3 weeks ago, and I only seen a normal day of operation on the 18th, after that something went wrong, basically my house is using most of the time what the PV is producing which is wrong as I don't have this usage (I know my house) + my battery is not stepping in after the PV stopped producing (night time), also the graphs stoped showing any usage night time as you can see in the other days + the battery was deciding to charge from the grid let's say around 8pm when I set the schedule to be charging after midnight.

Solis replied and waiting to see how can they help as my installer is  useless, to him looks normal 😡

 


Dear Luciannae,

I raised the matter with my battery installers and they came and had another look at the installation and fixed the problem. I think it was a matter of some sensors having been installed the wrong way round.

 

Best Wishes,

Stephen

That’s one thing that is all too common unfortunately. Some installers are not up to speed on requirements, especially when the system has to interact with the existing mains power 


@luciannae what rating is your PV and inverter?

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, these charts can be complex but they do basically look like things are operating ok but your system may have some settings which you might not realise are set


If you look at your first graph ..

The battery is at near full charge until around 9am and then goes into discharge/feeding into home until around 12. From there the PV is still exporting until just before 6pm when the battery is charging, reaching full power around 8pm

Looking at 18th

There are things running ‘overnight’ (early morning and from 9pm onwards) which is being fed from the grid as the batteries are low (20%?) until the PV kicks in to charge batteries and feed the home around 6am. The batteries then go into another discharge cycle around 12 and they’re down until around 3pm when they begin to charge again. The evening power from 9ish takes battery power but there’s not a lot there and so again the grid is used to supply whatever load in on

 

If there are loads overnight on 31st and 5th which are not showing, there may be an issue with that and as I’ve mentioned earlier, there was a firmware update recently which corrected readings and something where the inverter wasn't recording overnight. 


@BPLightlog@BPLightlog   

Not sure what you mean by "rating", I have a 6kwp PV capacity, 10 kw battery Pytes 48100r and a Solis 6kw inverter, if that's what the question was about?

Solis just done an firmware update, adjusted some settings and advised to monitor for the next 48h 🤞.

 

What I was saying, is that I understand the graph from 18th and it is normal that the battery being discharged over night as I was charging my EV, but on the other graphs this is not happening anymore. So technically after PV stops producing I am going straight to grid import (which is not shown as well) as the battery just sits at 100% without discharging.

 

So I am hoping for the best after Solis update. 

 


Hi, yes I was just trying to match the PV capacity together with inverter control and battery. 
As I mentioned, someone else had problems with overnight readings so hopefully the new firmware will sort it for you. 
If you get chance, let us know how you get on


So after almost 24h since firmware update and some adjustment by Solis support, unfortunately thers no change. I am still not showing any export, all the PV generated is showing used by the house (I am not using thatich energy), the battery doesn't supply the house once the PV stops generating.

This morning I went to check the inverter, and run a test: the PV was generating around 2kwh so I turned on my electric hob (all 4 knobs) + kettle + microwave for about 15 seconds, the inverter display didn't changed at all! Shouldn't this be almost instant showed on the display?

I mean at such a big energy usage, it should have shown a spike either from the grid or the battery, but nothing! After a few minutes, it was showing that is charging the battery.... This is shown on the graph as well. 

Did the firmware made it slower? 

Tomorrow will get back to Solis with the update, and still have no clue what the issue might be! 

 


If you don’t get anything further here, there are users over in the DIY solar forum who may have more info


Hey @luciannae 

 

I’m glad to see one of our fantastic volunteers, BPLightlog has already stopped by to offer some advice.

 

Sorry to hear that update from Solis hasn’t helped, keep us updated here with what they have to say.


how can we enabled this? i am using Solis 10KW OnGrid inverter 


Why solis cloud apps not showing power flow on website and app as well?
 


What exactly do you see currently?


Hi @atifdmv,

 

I’m sorry to hear you’re experiencing this.

 

If you’re able to provide some more information as our forum volunteer asked, we may be able to advise further.

 

These threads may be also helpful:

 

 


 


Unfortunately being Pakistan based, it is difficult to comment as regulations and specifications differ. This forum is based in the UK. 
You may need to make sure of your inverter settings to include the Solis data monitor if you have it fitted. Apart from that, it’s unlikely that we can help


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