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October 30, 2023
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Do shareholders now own the sunshine? My usage had actually gone up after Solar Panels?

  • October 30, 2023
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Since the installation of solar panels my electricity usage has gone up 12 fold. During that time, if all is working correctly, I have also used the 700 KWs generated by my solar panels which means my actual usage has gone up far more than 12 fold. Is it possible that the energy generated by my solar panels is adding to my meter readings, in othervwords benefitting the electric company rather than me? Might they have been wired incorrectly? 

Best answer by LordHarry

This was posted in another thread a while back:

Honeywell Elster AS300P (SMETS1)
To get an export reading from this smart meter:

  1. Press and hold the grey middle button until the main menu loads up
  2. ‘General’ should appear on-screen – press and hold the middle button again to select this option
  3. ‘Time & Date’ should be visible – now scroll with the bottom button until you see ‘TOU Registers’
  4. Press and hold the middle button once more will hovering over ‘TOU Registers’ and you should now see ‘Cum. Exp.’ with a value underneath it.

If it reads zero then your export is definitely being ‘seen’ as consumption.

This is not a matter for the solar installer though as it is Scottish Power’s meter that is not doing what it needs to do. The cause may be that, as I understand it, the smart meter has to be correctly set up to measure export as well as consumption – as the solar panels were installed after the smart meter then this may not be the case with yours.

If you export value is zero then tell Scottish Power that they need to pull their finger out and reset your meter.

 

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juliamc
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November 22, 2023

I’m not familiar with that but googling it tells me it’s a smart controller for gas boilers. That’s not to say it won’t control the heat pump but I’m fairly certain it’s not an efficient way of doing that. What make is the heat pump ? It’s best to have the same manufacturer’s controls. 
Might need advice from @hydrosam 

Sand1R0seAuthor
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November 22, 2023

It's an Ideal Heating heat pump.

juliamc
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November 22, 2023

Ok so same manufacturer and should be ok. How are you timing the heating to fit with the battery charge?

Sand1R0seAuthor
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November 22, 2023

Just manually but keeping things above 17°C 24/7 and turning up for a while when plenty in battery. Also if course raising temperature with solid fuel if the ASHP is responsible for my ridiculous usage then I can't afford it. No, forget that, my ridiculous usage started as soon as solar panels fitted almost two months before existence of ASHP.

 

Jeffus
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November 22, 2023

Just manually but keeping things above 17°C 24/7 and turning up for a while when plenty in battery. Also if course raising temperature with solid fuel if the ASHP is responsible for my ridiculous usage then I can't afford it. No, forget that, my ridiculous usage started as soon as solar panels fitted almost two months before existence of ASHP.

 

Am still left wondering if the meter can even handle export readings looking back all the previous posts where there was no export register unless I missed it?

@BPLightlog @Blastoise186 did you manage to come to an educated conclusion? Or was it more likely a wiring issue?

 

Sand1R0seAuthor
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November 22, 2023

No there was no export register. I have been in touch with Scottish Power about that. What does it mean if there is no Export Register? If I subtract the total energy harnessed to date by my solar panels from the readings on my Scottish Power meter it makes a lot more sense of my usage. So I started off believing that all the solar panel generated energy was adding to my meter readings hence the title.

Jeffus
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November 22, 2023

No there was no export register. I have been in touch with Scottish Power about that. What does it mean if there is no Export Register? If I subtract the total energy harnessed to date by my solar panels from the readings on my Scottish Power meter it makes a lot more sense of my usage. So I started off believing that all the solar panel generated energy was adding to my meter readings hence the title.

It is difficult to know if the issue is the wiring is wrong or the meter itself can't differentiate import from export.

So basically you need to get someone to check the wiring and for Scottish Power to confirm the meter can handle export and it hasn't got some strange configuration 

BPLightlog
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Super User
November 22, 2023

The wiring is one issue but possibly not connected with the sudden increase in usage. If the meter isn’t configured for export, it’s quite possible that everything is being totalled and labelled as consumption. It may need a meter swap if it’s not possible to reconfigure - we have seen this before but on a larger system 

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juliamc
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November 22, 2023

Just manually but keeping things above 17°C 24/7 and turning up for a while when plenty in battery. 

 

If you’re supplementing the heat with a solid fuel device that’s probably going to shut off the heat pump via your room thermostat control. When you turn the target temperature up to use the battery that’s going to ask the heat pump to work hard again. That on and off is not good for it, and expensive in electricity. Ideally you should try to just use the heat pump on its own, and find a temperature that you’re happy with, regardless of what’s in the battery.

Does the heat pump tell you how much electricity it’s using per day ? It should indicate how much heat it’s giving too. Both figures are in kWh. Divide heat out by elec in and that’ll give a figure for COP (coefficient of performance). What is that number?

Sand1R0seAuthor
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November 22, 2023

Thank you. I'll let you know how I get on. I shall be showing your comments to the 'Electric Supervisor' when he comes as generally I am told that I am wrong.

Regarding the Cofficient of Performance  - where do I get that information from? I will explore. It's interesting but all new to me..