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Charge Anytime app fails to charge vehicle to set max charge level

  • February 18, 2023
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Plugged my Renault Zoe into my home charge point at lunchtime yesterday and left the app to do it’s thing. My app settings are Reached by: 09:00, Charge level: 100%.

There were multiple charging ‘sessions’ but when the charge finished and I unplugged at 09:15 this morning both the car and the app reported the car’s battery level at only 96%.

I’m sure I’ve used the app to charge to 100% previously. What’s going on and is this likely to happen again?

Best answer by Peter E

Updated on 23/01/26 by Ben_OVO

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There are complications of charging to 100%. 0-99% is straight forward and the time to charge calculation is relatively linear. However, the last one percent is a two stage process. Stage one is the charge time to go from 99% to 100% nominal - the point where the lowest-capacity pair of cells (96 series connection of a pair of cells, 96s2p configuration) reaches its maximum voltage. That takes about three minutes.

 

After that point the charger in the car drops the power down down to 2kW (you can see this happen on 7 and 22kW chargers) and then selectively brings each pair of cells to the maximum voltage. When the highest capacity pair reach the maximum voltage the cell levelling process terminates and a 100% charge is declared. The time to do the levelling varies according to a number of parameters but the main one is the number of miles since the last 100% charge. The energy required to do this can vary from 3-5kWh every time you do it. The variability of this process is shown on the Renault app as a loss of time to complete the charge whereas it would show a charge completion time before 99%.

 

Getting back to your issue: Is the app etc capable of recognising that the very last part of the charge can take a lot longer than simply calculating a pro-rata time based on the rate that it is charging up to 99%? Perhaps it gets it right some of the time. Maybe that will be when you have done fewer miles since the last full charge.

 

Another possibility is that the charge reported by the BMS can drop when the battery temperature drops even though no charge is lost from the battery. I have noticed that I can park a warm car / battery in the evening at say 70% and if it has been very cold overnight it will report only 68% in the morning only for it to report 69% later on in the day when it has warmed up a bit. The BMS does change the available battery capacity according to temperature and it’s not the only car to do it.

 

There is also the possibility of a malfunction somewhere between the car and Ovo’s servers during the charging process.

 

I hope that helps

 

Peter

24 replies

Rank 3
December 28, 2023

Sorry I should have been clearer here, it only charges you full standard rate (not the 7p rate) if you over ride and press “boost” (well thats what it on my charger app) then it goes to standard tariff…. 

Rank 9
December 28, 2023

Thing is OVO don’t really make it clear you can change the end time as often as you want (I guess its not really in their interest to do so) and my (admittedly short) experience is that if I set the “Ready by” time in the near future it starts to charge straight away, so I don’t see me using “Boost” - but I’ve got a PHEV so am not totally reliant on Electricity.  

Newcomer
December 2, 2024

Plugged my Renault Zoe into my home charge point at lunchtime yesterday and left the app to do it’s thing. My app settings are Reached by: 09:00, Charge level: 100%.

There were multiple charging ‘sessions’ but when the charge finished and I unplugged at 09:15 this morning both the car and the app reported the car’s battery level at only 96%.

I’m sure I’ve used the app to charge to 100% previously. What’s going on and is this likely to happen again?

I have had similar issues. 

I resolved it by removing my car from Ovo Charge Anytime app and then adding it again after restarting the phone.

After that  I uninstalled Mercedes Me from my phone,  restarted the phone and then reinstalled Mercedes Me.

That seems to have worked.....so far!

 

Peter E
Super User
Super User
December 2, 2024

Although the original post is a year old it is really good to have other views of how to fix issues like this but if it's intermittent you often never really figure out what the problem is. Given the complexity of what has to happen it's not surprising that it goes wrong on occasions.

 

There are many links in the chain: Your phone and app; your mobile phone signal; OVO’s servers or the servers belonging to the car or charge point; the communications link to your car or internet/lan cable to your charge point; the car itself waking up to a signal to charge or the car deciding it's not the right time to charge. Any of those failing will result in a complete or partial charging failure.

 

There is not a lot under your control. For persistent problems you can reset the phone, delete and reinstall the app, check the WiFi signal stength between your router and your charge point if you are using that instead of a lan cable, the mobile phone signal strength to the car, making sure you don't have any conflicts between the settings in the car and what you want to do. The latter one can be an issue if the charging times change when there wasn't a problem with the original times but there is with the new times.

 

The concept should be set set it up and then plug in and forget but sometimes you end up with problems that that involve too many suspects and no way of ever knowing what went wrong.

 

One source of information worth looking at is the SpeakEV forum for your make of car or charge point.

 

Good luck!

 

PS I use a cheap ToU tariff and a fixed timer in the car connected to a dumb charge point. Not quite the cheapest way of doing it but very simple to set up and no failures in 3 years. However, I have chosen reliability over cost.

 

 

 

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