Shouldn't they only need access to: charging location, commands to schedule, start, and stop charging
Rather than basically ownership of my car?
Kaluza for some reason needs access:
Vehicle Information
Vehicle live data, location, eligible upgrades, nearby superchargers, ownership, and service scheduling data
Vehicle Commands
Commands to access Sentry, *****add or remove driver, unlock, wake up, remote start, and schedule software updates****
Vehicle Charging Management
Vehicle charging history, billed amount
Best answer by Blastoise186
That’s just how the Tesla system works.
Just because Kaluza is allowed to do that, doesn’t mean it will. It’s up to you. Accept the permissions and use Charge Anytime, or deny them and don’t use it. In real terms, much of that actually makes sense given the use case. Kaluza can’t talk to a Tesla that’s gone into deep sleep after all… It’s possible that Wake Up is only accessible via that group and not by itself.
Likewise, the vehicle live data and location stuff is crucial to knowing what vehicle you’ve connected and whether it’s charging at home or not. Without that, CA won’t know what to do. By knowing whether the Tesla is at home, the system will know whether it should step in or not. If it knows you’re away, it’ll disable the schedule and let the Tesla charge immediately. If it knows you’re at home, the Smart Charging schedules will kick in and give you the cheap rate.
Vehicle Charging Management is required to schedule and manage Smart Charging, while Vehicle Charging History is required in order to access the data needed to calculate how much power the Tesla has used while charging at home.
Alternatively, connect to the Charger instead and Kaluza will have no access to your Tesla.
Just because Kaluza is allowed to do that, doesn’t mean it will. It’s up to you. Accept the permissions and use Charge Anytime, or deny them and don’t use it. In real terms, much of that actually makes sense given the use case. Kaluza can’t talk to a Tesla that’s gone into deep sleep after all… It’s possible that Wake Up is only accessible via that group and not by itself.
Likewise, the vehicle live data and location stuff is crucial to knowing what vehicle you’ve connected and whether it’s charging at home or not. Without that, CA won’t know what to do. By knowing whether the Tesla is at home, the system will know whether it should step in or not. If it knows you’re away, it’ll disable the schedule and let the Tesla charge immediately. If it knows you’re at home, the Smart Charging schedules will kick in and give you the cheap rate.
Vehicle Charging Management is required to schedule and manage Smart Charging, while Vehicle Charging History is required in order to access the data needed to calculate how much power the Tesla has used while charging at home.
Alternatively, connect to the Charger instead and Kaluza will have no access to your Tesla.
Users should be advised that they are able to remove some privileges.
Blastoise186 wrote:
Just because Kaluza is allowed to do that, doesn’t mean it will. It’s up to you. Accept the permissions and use Charge Anytime,
My question was not about Charge Anytime.
deny them and don’t use it.
Its not an all or nothing option as you suggested
In real terms, much of that actually makes sense given the use case. Kaluza can’t talk to a Tesla that’s gone into deep sleep after all… It’s possible that Wake Up is only accessible via that group and not by itself.
What are you even talking about here (citation required)
Likewise, the vehicle live data and location stuff is crucial to knowing what vehicle you’ve connected and whether it’s charging at home or not. Without that, CA won’t know what to do. By knowing whether the Tesla is at home, the system will know whether it should step in or not. If it knows you’re away, it’ll disable the schedule and let the Tesla charge immediately. If it knows you’re at home, the Smart Charging schedules will kick in and give you the cheap rate.
I didn't ask this and I don't have a cheaper rate
Vehicle Charging Management is required to schedule and manage Smart Charging, while Vehicle Charging History is required in order to access the data needed to calculate how much power the Tesla has used while charging at home.
Alternatively, connect to the Charger instead and Kaluza will have no access to your Tesla.
I’ve asked the team about this. They’ve responded saying:
“Kaluza needs data so we can see if they're charging at home and their charging data. We need this as they're only eligible for CA credits for home charging and we need to see how much charge they have done on smart charge in order to credit effectively”.
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