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I'm on a fixed plan - Will the price cap increase affect my direct debit amount?

  • April 6, 2022
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I moved to OVO earlier this year and I'm on the Better Smart Plan, I queried why my direct debit has gone up 50% this month and below is the reply. I understand if I'm using more than the original estimate my DD needs to go up but the response seems to suggest prices can change.

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for getting in touch with us. 

You are on a fixed contract but the price is not fixed the unit rate and standing charge is this means that the price can vary due to the energy market at the time and also the usage of energy.

Due to the 54% increase this would be why your DD price has increased to £146.

 

Surely the whole point of fixing is to prevent price changes? If the unit rate is fixed unless there is a change to tax surely it should stay the same?

 

I'm not understanding this explanation at all.

Best answer by Jess_OVO

Updated on 22/11/24 by Abby_OVO

 

Ofgem’s energy price cap limits what you pay for gas or electricity on a variable rate plan. Find out how it works – and how it affects your prices with our price cap guide.

 

You can also see the latest information regarding the price cap levels and date changes on the Ofgem site here.

 

I’m so sorry for the confusion there, @Divert2.

 

Whilst there has been a recent price change on our Simpler Energy plan, this won’t affect our members currently on a fixed plan. As you mention your unit rates and standing charges on this plan are guaranteed for the length of this contract. I’m really sorry for the agent error in advising otherwise. 

 

Whilst the price you pay per unit doesn’t changed on a fixed plan, we’ll still review your monthly payment amount based on any changes to your projected usage figures. This means that if when we review your Direct Debit amount you’ve been using more energy than we’d expected you to, we’ll suggest that you increase the payment amount to ensure that energy costs are being covered. If you’ve recently joined OVO it may be that your actual usage figures are higher than we expected when you first joined. There’s more details on our Direct Debit review process over here:
 

 

Let us know if this helps explain things. 

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Blastoise186
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Super User
September 9, 2022

For anyone interested, please see https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/energy-bills-support/energy-bills-support-factsheet-8-september-2022

We’ll post links to OVO’s announcement in this thread once we’ve seen it.

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Newcomer
September 9, 2022

On the eve of the October price cap I watched OVO like a hawk, saw their fixed rates climb and my recommended direct debit payment ROCKET.

Now, on the eve of the second day AFTER Truss's 2,500 cap announcement, my recommended direct debit amount is STILL rising.

What's going on? You were eager to increase our payments in anticipation of a sharp rise, why are you slow to let us nudge our payments back down?

Blastoise186
Super User
Super User
September 9, 2022

Hi @animald ,

I’ve been reliably informed that OVO has paused all Direct Debit reviews for now while they work through the latest announcements and changes. Once OVO is ready, you’ll get an update. That’s all I know right now.

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stead
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September 10, 2022

I changed mind to the recommendation, well I didn't, been cutting usage was waiting for it to get to £600 was recommended £620.thought thats close enough had the email they will auto change the recommendation went to do it and it increased to 673! Now it's recommended at £724, this changes yesterday 😮

 

I predict it'll between £400-£500 as I'm on drive anytime and a large usage is eV charging, gas can't avoid that will be the killer for me but I'm also confused by the government help on fixed rates, a fixed 17p less and 4p less for gas is still substantially higher than the variable so still a bit confused. 

 

Just guess we have to wait until October to see what's actually happening! 

Newcomer
September 10, 2022

As if on queue, the app let me readjust my DD this morning. @stead worth having another look yourself?

nealmurphy
Newcomer
Newcomer
September 10, 2022

I personally think lots of people look too much at the DD suggestions and not enough at the unit rates. Much easier to compare and contrast options by reviewing the rates, as a 17p/kWh reduction on a fixed tariff at 70p/kWh will be a lot different to a 17p/kWh reduction on a 40p/kWh tariff.

Then you've got 2-rate, time of use and tracker tariffs to consider. Have the government considered all eventualities or will it be left up to individual suppliers to interpret what was meant?

stead
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Rank 5
September 10, 2022

As if on queue, the app let me readjust my DD this morning. @stead worth having another look yourself?

Just had a look, it says my recommendation is not available right now, but if I try to change it it tells me it has to be a whole number between £673 and £2000 still 

I’ll give it a few more days! 

At least we are earing interest on the balance, had a whole £1 last bill, should have £3 credit this month !

Newcomer
September 10, 2022

@nealmurphy what choice do people have when OVO won't let us ignore their recommendation and set below it?

nealmurphy
Newcomer
Newcomer
September 10, 2022

@animald other than the obvious one, possibly not a lot. My advice was more generic for all energy customers, not specifically those with OVO. But it still stands as you are being charged at specific unit rates - whether your payments marry up with these costs are affected by several factors.

Newcomer
September 10, 2022

I really do think a bit more patience is required from us consumers on all this.  The energy companies are having to react to a policy statement issued only 2 days ago, when the policy is due to last for 2 years.  Any problems (whether they are real or just a perception) will fade into insignificance given time.

 

Please only get onto customer services if your issue is really urgent.

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