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Charged a whole year supply for old address almost 2 years after I moved out

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Hi everyone. I was with SSE at my old address, moved into my partner's March 2022 and we moved to a bigger house together in August 2022.

New Tenants moved straight into my old house August 2022, I gave final meter readings over the phone as I've always done when I moved and thought nothing else of it.

Then in February 2024 around (18) months after I moved out, OVO said I owed £1800 July 2022- March 2023, I sent them loads of evidence to show I wasn't living there at that time by showing full tenancy agreement at new address, estate agents confirming I was, driving licence at new address, Council tax letter, HMRC and doctors letters at new address, also Octopus confirming I was with them at that time at new address and proving someone else was living their at that time, yet OVO said none of this is proof and continued with debt collection LCS and Solicitor, my question is, is it normal that OVO do not accept any of the above as proof of address?

Best answer by Nukecad

Updated on 22/07/25 by Emmanuelle_OVO:

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Just to note that having a Tenancy at one property doesn't automatically mean you are not liable for the bills at another property.

For example, a person could have/rent 2 properties and then sub-let one as 'all inclusive' of bills.
I'm not suggesting for a moment that you have been doing that, it's just one example.*

Somebody obviously believes that you are still liable for the bill at the old property for some reason, otherwise there would be no point in them taking you to court.
You don’t start a court action unless you are pretty sure (rightly or wrongly) that you are going to be sucessful.

We don't know what that reason may be

However they'll now have to convince the court that whatever they think makes you liable to pay the bill then that reason is correct in law.

 

*One slightly concerning thought/possibility does come to mind here, you say:

.... I gave final meter readings over the phone as I've always done when I moved and thought nothing else of it.

However you don't mention getting a final bill after you moved out and new tenants moved in.
You don’t mention getting any confirmation that the account had been closed.

Is it possible that the account in your name was never closed properly?, and that the new tenants never registered new utility accounts there? So the account remained still active in your name until March 2023? Maybe when those tenants left and someone else moved in and registered new utility accounts?
(Such things can and do happen in rental properties).

If that is what happened then that's an administrative error, either made by you for not closing your account properly, or made by the supplier not closing it after you told them to do so.

In which case the court would need to decide who’s error it was, and if in fact you were still liable even though you were no longer living there.

Please do let us know how you get on.

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Blastoise186
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December 3, 2024

Hi ​@Steve107 ,

Please wait for ​@Nukecad . This looks like his specialist subject so I’ll ask him to swing by.

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Steve107Author
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December 3, 2024

Okay, thank-you.

Nukecad
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December 3, 2024

Hi, ​@Steve107 

I do indeed know about this stuff; and I know LCS - both from personal experience. - I know how to effectively deal with it all.

I'm not at home at the moment so am posting this from my phone. When I get home I can/will go into more detail.

But for now- don't agree anything with LCS (or any other debt collectors), don't even acknowledge that you are somehow now their “customer” you aren't and you certainly do not have any “account” with them no matter what they say. More about collectors later.

Don't even talk to them on the phone, insist that all comunication be by email or by letter so that you have a record of what is said.

I assume that you raised an official complaint with OVO and that's when you sent the documents so:-

How long has it been since you raised that complaint?

Have you had a letter/email fom OVO saying that they consider their complaint process to have run it's course and be at an end? (Known as a ‘Deadlock’ letter).

TBH it sounds as if you may be heading to the Ombudsman with this, but there are certain things you have to do before going to the Ombudsman.

(And yes, I have had my own similar complaint at the Ombudsman which I won - just to be clear that wasn't OVO ).

I will post more detailed advice later.

I said, Hey - Watts going on.
Steve107Author
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December 3, 2024

Hi ​@Nukecad 

it's all crazy, originally LCS tried to collect the debt, but when I showed my evidence LCS closed the case on their end in February this year, then in May OVO appointed a solicitor who asked for payment, I've shown all evidence to OVO and emailed countless times, also through their complaints team over last several months, they never replied and proceeded with a court money claim, I have to now attend court with my evidence to show the judge I don't owe this debt, hopefully the judge will see that I was not liable, I just can't believe OVO have done this.

Nukecad
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December 3, 2024

Ahh, so LCS backed off and it's gone further than just the Ombudsman then.

(It does sound odd that OVO would do that - are you sure it's not just another DC agency? I was contacted by one that is owned/run by qualified lawyers, but they are working as Debt Collectors and not as lawyers. I don't have their name to hand here).

If it's  gone to court then that's above my advice level I'm afraid, I'm not a lawyer.

Once it has gone to court then the Ombudsman can't arbitrate either, you are past arbitration.

It will now be down to the Judge as you say.

Have you got a lawyer of your own to represent you?

EDIT - I remebered the one I meant, and that I had dealings with, if it's  Moriarty Law then they are debt collectors not solicitors 

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Steve107Author
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December 3, 2024

@Nukecad Thanks, I didn't try the Ombudsmen prior to court action, I spoke with them recently and I think they can help if I can get the case set-aside, it's just so annoying that OVO have not accepted anything I've shown them, I'm hopeful though as I've put in a defence with the same evidence to the court and they put everything on hold within 24 hrs of my application which is very fast work , so they must see I have a good defence/evidence, the hearing is a few days away so will update with my result.

Blastoise186
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December 3, 2024

Actually, if the Judge rules in your favour, the matter has to be terminated pretty rapidly IIRC and you’d see no further enforcement. But at the same time, you’d be unable to pursue it any further beyond what the Judgement says. But in that situation, you probably wouldn’t need to anyway.

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Steve107Author
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December 3, 2024

@Blastoise186 Okay, that's a pain as this has cost money to defend, I was hoping to get back should I win.

Blastoise186
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December 3, 2024

Judgements can sometimes award you money e.g. Costs if you win. I can’t say for sure though. AFAIK it’s only the Employment Tribunal where both sides always pay their own Costs - pretty much everything else I can think of makes the losing side pay.

If you Settle out of Court, you can negotiate terms - I’d suggest adding your costs to that deal.

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Steve107Author
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December 3, 2024

@Blastoise186  Thank you. Unfortunately OVO have stopped communication with me for some time, and still proceeding with court action , last I heard from them was when I sent full tenancy they asked for months ago prior to court hearing, I've tried all their emails, chat ect, but they're not responding at all, it all seems a complete waste of time for myself and the courts when it's so obvious I wasn't living there with the evidence I have shown, OVO say themselves a full tenancy is proif, yet I've sent them that and so much more, OVO wasn't even interested in who moved in straight after I left, even though I had the proof to show them, makes me wonder who the tenants at the time where paying their energy bills to?