I have two questions:
Can someone confirm what is going on.
Thanks
Best answer by Blastoise186
Event timings confirmed by the team - midnight to 1am was the trigger.
Your feedback has been sent to the team however, it’s on the official roadmap to make this a LOT more obvious.
+1Event timings confirmed by the team - midnight to 1am was the trigger.
Your feedback has been sent to the team however, it’s on the official roadmap to make this a LOT more obvious.
+112 AM is midnight, or the beginning of a new day. In 24-hour time, 12 AM is written as 00:00.
It always has been.
The other one (middle of the day) is 12 noon or 12pm.
At the risk of repeating myself (again!) - Surely it is not beyond the wit of OVO to stop using meaningless times and simply write Midnight to 1.00am or, as the case may be, Noon to 1.00pm. This problem has been pointed out before but they don’t seem interested in fixing it - or perhaps they just don’t understand.
12am is 12 hours before the meridiem (noon) which means it is midnight. 12pm means 12 hours after the meridiem (noon) which is also midnight. If it is not meaningless to be using 12am and 12pm as “common practice” I don’t know what is. I won’t hold my breath on OVO coming up with a sensible solution, which is a pity as they do most things well.
+1I use 12am and 12pm in some stuff I manage and operate - you’ll be amazed just how much IT Admin stuff does so (and that’s just the start!). It’s not just OVO that does this. :)
+1You just have to remember that 12am is midnight and 12pm is midday. It’s common usage in a lot of situations so even if OVO change there are lots of other companies and organisations that use these recognised forms of stating time in the 12 hour format. You could start using the 24 hour clock, eg. 00:00 - 01:00 but not everyone is able to cope with the fact that 16:00 hrs is 4pm and easily think of it as 6pm if they don't pay too much attention.
+1Plus if you’re in the Fire Service (like I am!) things get even more complicated. Some parts of the service even use formats like 0100 hours because that’s just how they do things
… you’ll be amazed just how much IT Admin stuff does so ...
IT has been USA-centric for most of its existence. That doesn’t mean to say we have to follow American practice all the time. We haven’t ever to my knowledge resorted to using 9/11 to mean 11th September, and most Britons will read a date like that as 9th November.
12am is meaningless as Duncan and I have repeatedly pointed out. 12 o’clock can be both am and pm, but in both cases it literally means midnight. Perhaps the PM people could be persuaded to use the 24-hour clock like most other British systems where it removes all doubt, like train and plane times and TV schedules.
Still, it’s a bit far-fetched to assume that the invitation mistakenly stated 1:00 AM when they meant 1:00 PM.
To avoid any confusion between 12 am/pm or midnight/midday, timing slots should start at 23.59 or 00.01.
Eradicates any misunderstandings.
And yes, learn to use the 24 hour clock.
+5Whilst I have always understood 12am to be midnight and 12pm midday, I realise that many people are totally confused by the usage.
I recently saw an explanation from NPL (the National Physics Laboratory) which I think is very good and which should be followed
I nearly posted that very page myself, but decided that it would only serve to confuse the issue. In fact, it does the opposite and points out the pitfalls of what the PM team use. The same applies elsewhere in the OVOsphere, e.g. on account Usage pages. It’s as if they assume that energy consumers don’t understand the 24-hour clock.
I can’t help thinking that 11am must necessarily be one hour earlier than 12am, just as 10am is one hour earlier than 11am.
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