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THTC meter - Removal Request

  • January 10, 2024
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Hi folks,

 

I am trying to have a redundant THTC meter removed from my house and OVO seem to be refusing to do this. Can anyone help explain what I should do? Some background info below:

 

We moved to a property in March last year in the west of Scotland. The property has two meters with a THTC setup running storage heaters. We are getting the storage heaters removed in February and an air source heat pump installed. 

 

Once this work has been carried out there will be nothing running from the RadioTelemeter (THTC) meter.

 

I have contacted OVO by phone yesterday to request that this meter be removed once it is no longer in use. The person I spoke with said that OVO would not do this because doing so would stop the other (ordinary) meter working. They weren’t able to explain why this would be the case. After some time on the phone I was told that if I emailed OVO with evidence that the THTC meter would not powering anything then they could arrange for it to be removed. This seemed like a positive outcome although it was not clear why we were initially told in the call that removal wasn’t possible.

 

I sent an email last night attaching the quotes from our electrician and heating engineer for removal of storage heaters and replacement with heat pump etc. I got a positive response this morning:

I am Stephen from account management at OVO energy after reading your email we can go ahead and do that for you but i am going to give you extra information so to proceed with this job there is a charge due to the nature of it I would like to clarify that your okay with that and if you are i can go ahead and get you a price and and book the job for you.

 

Again this seemed positive and I asked Stephen to go ahead and give us a cost. I then had response email from Nahim:

Apologies for the confusion form what Stephan said but as of right now, appointments for removing THTC meters aren't available. We appreciate you gave us confirmation the property's heating system is no longer dependant.

However we are working on a new meter type that'll basically replace the current two meters and you'll get one meter. The meter will reveal at Spring and you'll get an email when your free meter upgrade is ready

 

As far as I understand it the ‘new meter type’ mentioned has been in development for years and has been repeatedly delayed. I have little to no confidence that it will arrive in spring as promised above. It isn’t clear why we should be expected to wait for this.

 

Ontop of that our experience from speaking to neighbours and friends locally is that smart meters are useless in this (rural) area since they are not able to connect to a radio mast for communication. Any smart meters fitted simply operate as ‘dumb’ meters in this area.

 

Can anyone give us some hope that it is possible to get the redundant THTC meter removed as we have requested? Is there any technical reason why this wouldn’t be possible?

 

Failing that at least any good reason why we should have to wait for the new meter to be developed and rolled out? It seems in this instance that whilst waiting we’d have headaches if we wanted to switch supplier etc because we’d have a strange setup with a redundant meter and two MPAN numbers associated with the property. This could go on indefinitely since the new meters are not yet launched.

 

Below is a photograph of our current setup incase this is useful:

 

 

We’d really appreciate any help on this!

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Best answer by Nukecad

They may well ask for consumer feedback later; once those initial proposals have been refined by industry discussions.

However at the moment that isn’t what they want or need.

So it’s best not to clog up their email with unwanted stuff that just takes up their time to deal with.
(There’s a word we all use for unwanted emails - spam).

Wait and see if they do ask for consumer feedback/opinion, but TBH there may not be time.
The clock is counting down and contingency plans need to be in place for when it reaches zero in June.

240 replies

Newcomer
May 1, 2024

Update from my original post 

Octopus have now installed a new meter into my neighbours house. 
However I contacted other neighbours who are with Octopus and their smart meters don’t work as they are unable to receive the signal leaving them all in dumb mode!! 

Rank 4
May 1, 2024

Update from my original post 

Octopus have now installed a new meter into my neighbours house. 
However I contacted other neighbours who are with Octopus and their smart meters don’t work as they are unable to receive the signal leaving them all in dumb mode!! 

Update from my original post 

Octopus have now installed a new meter into my neighbours house. 
However I contacted other neighbours who are with Octopus and their smart meters don’t work as they are unable to receive the signal leaving them all in dumb mode!! 

 

You use the term "dumb mode". I presume your neighbours can submit the reading monthly and this will generate their bills. I could live with that... it's what I'm doing just now.

Blastoise186
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Super User
May 1, 2024

We did advise you to wait...

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Newcomer
May 2, 2024

Wait for what? I haven’t done anything. I’m just updating everyone on my neighbours situation 

Newcomer
May 7, 2024

So I had a engineer appointment for THTC meter removal on the 18th April, but said engineer failed to show!

Back to support team with the same mixed up excuses on why they can't remove THTC meter!

I have an email from my DNO saying there's no reason for OVO to refuse and that OVO should just do a logical meter disconnect.

 

It's most frustrating when according to my calculations if I was able to change supplier onto a 30min agile tariff I'd be averaging £0.11/unit....so for OVO to say bill's raising and customer care as a reason is very patronising.

Newcomer
May 7, 2024

Mostly down to the wiring really - you’d have to get a private electrician in to rewire anything that’s on the THTC meter, and that probably won’t come cheap.

If you were to do the free option, the meter could simply be reconfigured remotely later to turn THTC mode off and otherwise leave everything as-is.

Hardly that complicated.... Anderson block and perhaps some longer tails!

Blastoise186
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Super User
May 8, 2024

Don’t be so sure. We’ve seen a lot of different setups on the Forum over the years. Just because yours is simple, doesn’t mean everyone else’s is.

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Newcomer
May 9, 2024

So I had a engineer appointment for THTC meter removal on the 18th April, but said engineer failed to show!

Back to support team with the same mixed up excuses on why they can't remove THTC meter!

I have an email from my DNO saying there's no reason for OVO to refuse and that OVO should just do a logical meter disconnect.

 

It's most frustrating when according to my calculations if I was able to change supplier onto a 30min agile tariff I'd be averaging £0.11/unit....so for OVO to say bill's raising and customer care as a reason is very patronising.

Yup - you have to ask yourself what incentive does Ovo have to rectify this issue quickly given they’ll potentially lose a large no. of customers the moment they do.

Blastoise186
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Super User
May 9, 2024

The incentive to migrate before the RTS Shutdown is obvious - customers heating/hot water would break if it’s not done.

As I’ve said before, be patient. This stuff is not an overnight job and has to be done right, NOT quickly.

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May 30, 2024

It’s all very wall saying “be patient” if you’re not stuck with one of these meters and unable to switch providers or make use of more flexible tariffs that the likes of Octopus offer.  Every month that goes by is money needlessly being extracted from peoples pockets.  We’re not asking for special treatment here. We just want to be allowed to engage with the market the way everybody else is able to.