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Price cap increases- To fix or not to fix?

  • December 15, 2023
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Customers on variable tariffs (SVT) are being notified these days of tariff increases from 1 January. At the same time, many are being given the opportunity to switch to a fixed-rate tariff. I am trying to decide whether it would be a good idea to fix, but I’m not sure I have all the information I need. Gas hasn’t been invented yet in my corner of the world, so I’m only interested in electricity tariffs.

Cornwall Insight are a well respected crystal-ball gazer where energy prices are concerned. Their predictions for 2024 show small ups and downs in unit prices, but one startling forecast is for a hike in the standing charge of the order of 15% on 1 April. For a light user like me, this is hugely significant. On SVT, the standing charge would amount to 37% of my bill in January, but by October this would have risen to more than 41%. The fixed rates I’m being offered would keep the standing charge at more or less the current level, so that makes fixing look like a good idea. 

But … we know that Ofgem are considering changes to the way standing charges are calculated and applied. If by some miracle any change were to be implemented before 1 October next, would I miss out on any benefit this might bring? I guess the answer to that is Yes, but that it’s not very likely any change will happen by then. Agree?

And does anyone know the reason for the increase in standing charges predicted for 1 April next? Are we going to be paying for the cost of bailing out Bulb customers?

 

Best answer by BPLightlog

Updated on 29/08/25 by Ben_OVO

The Energy Price Cap, set by Ofgem, is normally changed on 01/01, 01/04, 01/07 and 01/10 each year. The price cap can go up or down and, if you’re on the standard variable tariff (Simpler Energy) then your rates will go up or down to match the price cap change. We offer fixed tariffs for one or two years. If you opt in for a fixed tariff then your rates will be fixed, and protected from price cap changes. If you’re up for renewal, or are currently on the Simpler Energy plan, you can switch to a fixed tariff via your online account or app (see below).

 

 

I’ve been asked about the question ‘to fix or not to fix’ often in the last few months and I always offer the same answer .. how comfortable are you with the possibility that prices might increase over the next year?

There are no two ways about it .. it is a gamble. I liken it to taking out insurance (the optional sort) where it’s a calculation as to the possibility of an expense for a loss/damage compared to - for the most part - having financial cover for those things.

Back in 2021 we fixed our energy rate for 2 years and almost everybody told me that it was at too high a level. Little did I (or anybody else) know about the pending war in Ukraine and the problems with supply from the Russian pipeline.

This time, despite the outlook, we have not fixed .. although, in effect, our tariff is a constant variable if that makes any sense. All of that is why I’ve invested in solar PV, battery storage, a Ripple community solar park and a small wind generator, so that we have a degree of self/low generation support whatever happens

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Firedog
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February 17, 2024

Cornwall Insight latest:
  

Forecast
2024-02-16

2024 Q2 

2024 Q3 

2024 Q4 

Electricity      
Standing Charge (£/day) 0.58 0.58 0.60
Per Unit Costs (p/kWh) 23.27 20.87 22.35
Gas      
Standing Charge (£/day) 0.30 0.30 0.31
Per Unit Costs (p/kWh) 5.96 5.04 5.11

 

These are GB average figures including VAT. There are significant variations from region to region. They are based on wholesale costs and other factors at close of business on 16 February; these are likely to be close to those used by Ofgem to calculate the Energy Price Cap for April-June 2024.

Source: Predictions and Insights into the Default Tariff Cap - Cornwall Insight

 

And to pre-empt Jeffus, here are the UK gas wholesale prices for the past six months:
  

Source: UK Natural Gas - Price - Chart (tradingeconomics.com)

 

The peak here was 136.70 on 23 October last, so it’s fallen by more than half since then.

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February 20, 2024

Hey guys, any updates on second quarter’s price cap? 

Blastoise186
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February 20, 2024

Hey guys, any updates on second quarter’s price cap? 

Soon!(tm)

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Firedog
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February 23, 2024

The new price cap, for April-June 2024: Get energy price cap standing charges and unit rates by region | Ofgem

Note the sometimes startling changes in standing charges - any change in standing charges has the biggest impact on those with lowest consumption. There are also unusually large variations around the country, ranging from an 10% increase to a 9% decrease. Do your sums carefully!

 

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Firedog
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February 28, 2024

We have a couple of weeks before deciding whether to stick or twist, but I’ve been poking around elsewhere to see what’s currently available. I was very surprised to see a 2-year fixed rate tariff from Ecotricity with a guaranteed standing charge (SC) for electricity of 41p/day. I wonder if Dale Vince knows something we don’t about where SCs are likely to go over the next couple of years; the 2024Q2 price cap sets the average SC to 60p, but for my region it’s only (!) 56p. The difference is nevertheless staggering.

Comparing the Ecotricity rates with OVO’s equivalent tariff, I reckon that you’d have to be consuming more than 5300kWh/year for the higher price per unit to outweigh the saving on SC. My usage over the past 12 months has been 1142kWh:
  

  

 

I’d feel pretty foolish, though if SCs fell significantly in response to Ofgem’s planned revision of the way they’re applied. The exit fees would probably swallow any saving and more. 


 


*  Trivia: I lived for several years 200m over the hill from New Lawn, the home ground of Vince’s green football club Forest Green Rovers.

 

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February 29, 2024

Other companies are already sharing the new standing charges and energy costs while OVO are encouraging us to fix. Without all the facts how can we fairly decide?

Nukecad
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March 1, 2024

Other companies are already sharing the new standing charges and energy costs while OVO are encouraging us to fix. Without all the facts how can we fairly decide?

That’s the point with fixing or not fixing.

You don’t, you can’t, have the facts about what will happen with prices in the future, so to fix or not fix is a gamble that you take on what will happen with prices.

And even if you never look at the fixing options and always stay with variable rates that’s still a gamble, just one that you are taking without thinking about it.
You are already in the game, you might as well consider how you want to play it.

Sometimes fixing is not even about saving money, but about knowing how much you will be paying for the next year (or 2, or however long you fix for).
I have fixed, I know how much electricity and gas I use each year, so I know how much that will cost me each month for the next 12 months.
For some people that is important to know, even if it is more than they might have paid on variable rate.

I fixed in December for 12 months, at the moment with the changes coming in April that looks like it might have been the wrong time for me to fix. (If i did it to try and save money).
Or it might not have been, that will depend on what further changes are made to unit prices and (particularly for me as a low user) the standing charges in summer and autumn.
I won’t know for sure if I made the right money saving decision (gamble) for me until next December. (Well actually I’ll be able to work it out once I know what the autumn rates will be).
And then I’ll have to make another gamble between fixing again or not.

I said, Hey - Watts going on.
Emmanuelle_OVO
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March 1, 2024

Other companies are already sharing the new standing charges and energy costs while OVO are encouraging us to fix. Without all the facts how can we fairly decide?

 

Hey @Sally123,

 

Welcome to the OVO Online Community, 

 

Price Increase Notification letters will be sent out from the 4th March and so by 18th, customers on the Simpler Variable Tariff should have a notification of the new prices from OVO. 

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Firedog
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March 1, 2024

Price Increase Notification letters will be sent out ...

 

I thought SVT prices were decreasing on 1 April 🤷🏼

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Abby_OVO
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March 4, 2024

Spot on @Firedog, Prices are decreasing so we won’t be sending any Price Increase Notification letters this time.🙂

 

The Standard Variable tariff prices will be update online, you can get a quote here: https://plans.ovoenergy.com/.

 

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