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Increase to Direct Debit - new way of calculating Direct Debit amount?

  • June 16, 2025
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Ovo want to increase by direct debits so that I am one month in credit by the end of March next year. I queried this with them as previously the payments were worked out so that the amount was £0 at the end of the 12 month period. They’ve said they have changed their DDM calculations so I have to accept this. I think this is v unfair. Is there any way round this? 

Best answer by Emmanuelle_OVO

Updated on the 29/08/25 by Emmanuelle_OVO:

Hey ​@Lorna C,

We have made the change to build one month's usage credit by the end of the winter period on our customers accounts. This credit will help to cover any changes to your energy usage or costs throughout the year leading to a smoother payment journey. Your Direct Debit is managed to ensure that you do not build too much credit on your account and also ensures your account does not fall into arrears should anything change with your usage. If you do build more credit on your account than is needed, we will recommend you reduce your payments or alternatively, you can request a refund at any time Our recommended Direct Debit amount is a suggested amount to ensure you pay for your predicted energy and don't end up with any debt or too much credit by the end of the Winter period. Your energy costs may go up or down throughout the year and we want to support you with those changes. Paying by Direct Debit helps to spread those costs so you don't end up with large bills to pay, and paying by Direct Debit is one of the cheapest ways to pay. 

 

How we work out your Direct Debit amount

 

The aim is to make sure you have credit for 1 month’s payment in your OVO account by the end of March. This is to help cover any change in your home energy use over the course of the year. 

 

For new customers, this only comes into effect once you’ve reached March. When you first join, the aim is to make sure you have no balance left to pay after 1 year.

 

Your Direct Debit payment amount will be regularly reviewed to make sure it still covers your home’s energy use.

 

Why is my Direct Debit increasing when my balance is in credit?

 

It’s normal for a credit balance to build up in your energy account over summer, when energy use is usually lower. This credit can help pay for your energy in winter, when most homes use more. It helps you spread your energy costs over time. Even if your energy account is in credit, sometimes your Direct Debit payments still need to increase.

 

This could be the case if we’ve worked out that your OVO account is likely to have a debt balance long term – based on how much energy your home is predicted to use. 

 

You can always choose to get a credit refund if you prefer. Request one at any time in your online account, in our app, or over the phone. You just need to leave credit in there for 1 month’s payment. This is in line with our refund policy.
 

 

133 replies

Newcomer
June 16, 2025

I have already raised a complaint, and arranged to switch to another supplier

Nukecad
Super User
Super User
June 16, 2025

 

Why should customers be okay with having hundreds of pounds held by OVO, with no payment of interest, 

 

To play Devils Advocate here, and reword your question slightly:

Why should a supplier be OK with having hundreds of pounds of debit balance held by customers, with no payment of interest?

Personally I could see aiming for zero balance on 31st March making sense.
(Although I disagree with how that change was implemented).

Yes it’s a change from what we are used to, but the energy industry is changing.

However I think aiming for 1-months credit on 31st March is over the top.
(And I also disagree with how this change has been implemented).

In my view, having a months credit balance the end of  September or October to help cover higher winter usage would be justifiable, having a months credit balance at the end of March is not.

Of course September/October is not the end of the Financial year.
I strongly suspect that’s the main reason why the end of March (start of April) was chosen, for the year end accounts.

I said, Hey - Watts going on.
Newcomer
June 16, 2025

I understand the point you are making, however I am not asking OVO to allow accounts to be in debit for 12 months of the year. My own account is in credit most of the year, goes into debit around January, but this is always cleared. There is, in my opinion, an equity.

OVO ensuring everyone has a zero balance at the end of a 12 month period, even a credit balance to cover rising costs, no problem. Your suggestion of a credit balance in Autumn, given Winter bills are higher, absolutely makes sense.

My objection is to accounts being in several hundred pounds of credit year round, which is highly likely if customers have to have at least a months credit in March.

Emmanuelle_OVO
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Retired Moderator
June 17, 2025

Updated on the 29/08/25 by Emmanuelle_OVO:

Hey ​@Lorna C,

We have made the change to build one month's usage credit by the end of the winter period on our customers accounts. This credit will help to cover any changes to your energy usage or costs throughout the year leading to a smoother payment journey. Your Direct Debit is managed to ensure that you do not build too much credit on your account and also ensures your account does not fall into arrears should anything change with your usage. If you do build more credit on your account than is needed, we will recommend you reduce your payments or alternatively, you can request a refund at any time Our recommended Direct Debit amount is a suggested amount to ensure you pay for your predicted energy and don't end up with any debt or too much credit by the end of the Winter period. Your energy costs may go up or down throughout the year and we want to support you with those changes. Paying by Direct Debit helps to spread those costs so you don't end up with large bills to pay, and paying by Direct Debit is one of the cheapest ways to pay. 

 

How we work out your Direct Debit amount

 

The aim is to make sure you have credit for 1 month’s payment in your OVO account by the end of March. This is to help cover any change in your home energy use over the course of the year. 

 

For new customers, this only comes into effect once you’ve reached March. When you first join, the aim is to make sure you have no balance left to pay after 1 year.

 

Your Direct Debit payment amount will be regularly reviewed to make sure it still covers your home’s energy use.

 

Why is my Direct Debit increasing when my balance is in credit?

 

It’s normal for a credit balance to build up in your energy account over summer, when energy use is usually lower. This credit can help pay for your energy in winter, when most homes use more. It helps you spread your energy costs over time. Even if your energy account is in credit, sometimes your Direct Debit payments still need to increase.

 

This could be the case if we’ve worked out that your OVO account is likely to have a debt balance long term – based on how much energy your home is predicted to use. 

 

You can always choose to get a credit refund if you prefer. Request one at any time in your online account, in our app, or over the phone. You just need to leave credit in there for 1 month’s payment. This is in line with our refund policy.
 

 

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Newcomer
June 19, 2025

Unfortunately you keep changing the goalposts and not telling anyone.

Originally if you were on a fixed rate contract you had to be in credit by the end of your deal.

Then it was changed to be in credit by the end of March even if your deal had ended (so would be on a new fix or moved to another supplier)

Recently it seems to be changed so not only do you have to be in credit by the end of March but also have a month's worth of credit.

No attempts to make customers aware of these changes in policy.

I strongly considering moving away from Ovo when my fix ends in the autumn because of this.

 

 

Lorna CAuthor
Rank 1
June 20, 2025

That’s why I am leaving Ovo now, because of that very reason

Newcomer
June 20, 2025

That’s why I am leaving Ovo now, because of that very reason

they have tried to double mine, YES… DOUBLE my direct debits! (no prior discussion with me, to see if it was affordable)!!

Newcomer
June 20, 2025

can you imagine the convenience store you regularly go to,  charging you 100 quid extra next time you pop in,  and when you ask why they say its to keep you in credit for your next visit

unbelievable!

Rank 6
June 22, 2025

I've recent renewed my fixed price agreement with OVO with a 1 year fix  running through to 12 June 2026.  My previous agreement would have lapsed prior to 31/03/26, so I was always a bit on the fence with the fairness of the DD calculation by OVO as I figured who could really pin down where variable energy prices and the "cap" prior to this and if I wasn't fixed then 🤷‍♂️. 

Now however as an OVO customer for 5 years at the same address with a very stable electricity only demand and with a fixed price that goes beyond 31/03/26, I'm questioning the fairness of this DD policy from OVO which is still insisting I have 1 month DD credit by 31/03/26.  In the guide it says this date is chosen to take account of uncertain customer demand through the winter period, but I don't think this fair.  Is this DD pricing policy driven by the energy regulator or is it just a very blunt instrument OVO has chosen to use to reduce their less reliable customer debt.

Finally, do OVO intend to roll this date forward once the deadline has passed to 31/03/27 ?  

I think I know the answer and I just wondered with all the power of AI, I keep being told about, whether OVO could sharpen up this DD policy to give loyal, simple and reliable customers like me a break from the tyranny of  its "one size fits all" DD algorithm.

Firedog
Super User
Super User
June 23, 2025

That depends a lot on what you mean by ‘fair’. It’s a mechanism designed to avoid uncomfortable shocks when moving from one tariff or supplier to another. The extra month’s credit remains yours until you decide to redeem or spend it; at most, you’ll lose potential interest earned on 1/12 of your annual costs if it were instead put in a savings account. For the typical customer spending £1720 each year on electricity and gas, that’s 60p a month that this buffer might cost. You could have saved enough to post a letter once every quarter, but you wouldn’t get enough to buy a pint of milk each month.

Ofgem and the energy suppliers are doing whatever they can to prevent further accumulation of debt by customers. At the end of 2024, the total owed amounted to £3.85 Bn. This is a long way from being covered by the credit balances belonging to Direct Debit customers, which stood at £3.28 Bn at the same juncture. 

You can see these figures and many more at Ofgem’s site.

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