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Updated on 14/11/24 by Abby_OVO

 

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RTS Shutdown Update July 2024

 

Hey! The name’s 186, Blastoise186 and I’m one of the Forum Volunteers who you’ve maybe seen helping around here. I’ve been working with OVO to get the most up to date information possible for you and they’ve passed over the following helpful updates and details.

One of the recent hot questions we’ve seen on the Forum (for a while now) is what’s happening to RTS meters. The RTS (Radio Teleswitch Service) is shutting down soon, which especially affects complex ones like THTC (Total Heat Total Control). I’ve covered this before in one of my older posts linked below – so check that out if you’re interested in why this is happening. That post already has many questions covered, so this one will focus purely on the next steps.

If you’re interested in what all the different meter types are/were - just ask below. Not sure if you’ve got RTS? No problem – give OVO a ring and they’ll be able to let you know. You can reach out to them here.

All caught up? Great, let’s get started on this latest update. This is the final piece of the puzzle - the hot off the press information about exactly what’s happening next.

I’d like to apologise for the extended delay in getting this out. While I can - and do - act independently of OVO, such critical content like this still has to be reviewed and approved before it can go live to make sure it’s as accurate as possible. 

So without further ado, the big question…

 

I’ve got an RTS Meter, what are my options for smart meters?

Good question – as you may know, these meters can be pretty complex, but OVO have spent a good amount of time updating their systems to manage this change for their customers.

I’m pleased to finally reveal what OVO’s plans are for everyone with an RTS Meter, whether it be Economy 7, Economy 10, THTC (Total Heat Total Control), Total Living Control, Standard Economy & Heating Load, Heatwise, Storage Heating Control, Flexiheat, Superdeal or basically any other RTS Meter.

The long story short version is exactly what many of you wanted to hear - OVO will be contacting all RTS customers to sort the change to a non RTS meter. Even better, since everything will run locally and be controlled by the meter itself, your heating and hot water will continue to work even if the signal to the meter temporarily drops out.

But what will you get?

If you’re ready to upgrade and your meter is listed below as upgradeable, check out smart-booking.ovoenergy.com

With another supplier? Please contact their customer service team for this as OVO can only upgrade meters belonging to OVO customers.

 

Affected OVO supported RTS Meters/Tariffs

If you AREN’T in a LMA (Load Managed Area*) - 

*A Load Managed Area is an area that's not as easy to maintain, like small islands or densely populated communities

 

Economy 7

Available now!

All customers with an Economy 7 (both RTS and Non-RTS) are eligible for smart meters. Everything else will stay the same - it’s just a straightforward meter swap in 99% of cases.

 

Economy 10

Available now!

OVO has just started to roll out Economy 10 support on smart meters. You should have already had a letter to arrange this change, if not, give OVO a call on 0330 303 5063.

 

All other RTS meters (THTC, Superdeal etc)

Coming Soon

Here are the 2 possible routes you could go down.

 

Coming Soon – Rollout with OVO starts around August 2024

Good news! In this situation, you can go for Economy 7, Economy 9, Economy 10 or a single rate meter - totally up to you. Your letter will invite you to call OVO’s specialist team who are on hand to discuss the set up within your property. They’ll help you come to a decision that best suits your lifestyle.

As part of the process, your THTC meters will be taken out and replaced with a shiny new smart meter (where possible) running on whichever tariff you picked.

 

If you ARE in a Load Managed Area

Coming soon! Waiting for an availability estimate

For this small group in Northern Scotland, I’m afraid you’ll have to remain on THTC at this time due to the DNO restrictions that are still in effect. However, you’re still going to get smart meters as promised - OVO are working on a solution for you and will post more information as soon as possible

 

RTS Meters/Tariffs from other suppliers

No details yet - feel free to help me build this out. If you’re with any other supplier and have info on what’s happening to your meter, feel free to post the details below and if it looks good, I’ll add it here - with full credit of course.

 

What if I don’t want a smart meter and/or refuse to have the upgrade?

If you don’t want the upgrade, then the RTS Service will eventually end regardless, and I’m really sorry, but I can’t guarantee what’ll happen to your heating and/or hot water, so I strongly recommend against taking that risk. These changes must happen and must happen soon.

All I can say is that many of these RTS Meters are getting older now, and while the designers did include fail-safes to cover RTS Service outages, these were only designed for short-term outages - not a total and permanent shutdown. Just as I can’t guarantee what’ll happen to your heating and hot water, OVO can’t guarantee how long the fail-safe will last for - or if it’ll even work at all on your specific meter.

Forum Volunteers on The OVO Forum may also be unable to provide advice and support for these meters post end-of-life to the same extent as we have previously, which means we’ll probably recommend you go direct to smart meters. We’ll still try to help out if we can - but our options would be limited.

 

If you have any further questions, please do leave a comment and one of the OVO moderators will chase this up for us.

Just had my RTS controlled THTC set up replaced just now.  First check will be to look and see if the heating and hot water come on at 1.30pm like they should.  Pleasant engineer who has done a tidy job so hoping everything works ok.


Just had my RTS controlled THTC set up replaced just now.  First check will be to look and see if the heating and hot water come on at 1.30pm like they should.

You’ll be grand, I’m sure.  Don’t worry if the red light on your heater switch doesn’t appear bang on 1.30 as I’ve noticed my lights come on 5-10 minutes later.  The actual cheaper rate, though, DOES kick in on the half hour exactly (you can confirm this by watching the IHD).


Just had my RTS controlled THTC set up replaced just now.  First check will be to look and see if the heating and hot water come on at 1.30pm like they should.

You’ll be grand, I’m sure.  Don’t worry if the red light on your heater switch doesn’t appear bang on 1.30 as I’ve noticed my lights come on 5-10 minutes later.  The actual cheaper rate, though, DOES kick in on the half hour exactly (you can confirm this by watching the IHD).


 

Thanks.  Yes,  it was a couple of minutes after 1.30 then I heard it give a little click and storage heater started to charge and immerser came on.  All good so far.  😀


Hi @ByeeTHTC,

 

Happy to hear you managed to get this resolved. Thanks for bringing this up, this might be helpful for others in the same situation.

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That  should have read I’ve not got this resolved yet  

 

 


Just had my RTS controlled THTC set up replaced just now.  First check will be to look and see if the heating and hot water come on at 1.30pm like they should.

You’ll be grand, I’m sure.  Don’t worry if the red light on your heater switch doesn’t appear bang on 1.30 as I’ve noticed my lights come on 5-10 minutes later.  The actual cheaper rate, though, DOES kick in on the half hour exactly (you can confirm this by watching the IHD).


 

Thanks.  Yes,  it was a couple of minutes after 1.30 then I heard it give a little click and storage heater started to charge and immerser came on.  All good so far.  😀


Make sure the rate changes too, and keeps doing so. 


Hi @ByeeTHTC,

 

Happy to hear you managed to get this resolved. Thanks for bringing this up, this might be helpful for others in the same situation.

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That  should have read I’ve not got this resolved yet  

 

 

 

Oh, that’s a shame. I’m sorry to hear this. 

 

It may be worth contacting the Support team again so that they can look into this for you. It sounds like this may be something that could be fixed remotely but the team should be able to confirm.


Hi @ByeeTHTC,

 

Happy to hear you managed to get this resolved. Thanks for bringing this up, this might be helpful for others in the same situation.

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That  should have read I’ve not got this resolved yet  

 

 

 

Oh, that’s a shame. I’m sorry to hear this. 

 

It may be worth contacting the Support team again so that they can look into this for you. It sounds like this may be something that could be fixed remotely but the team should be able to confirm.

To be frank telephone advisors are next to useless as they won’t signpost or connect you to a team that can help. I’ve already spent hours trying to get past them and all they do is insist that visiting engineers can fix this kind of thing when they have no way of doing so. 
I’m trying to get the complaint handler from last time to help but if that doesn’t work it’ll have to be a long boring OFGEM complaint. 
The fact that OVO’s back office or the meter itself can change your tariff with no notice is worrying and exactly why so many people resist them. 


This was my dads cupboard with old THTC meters - this is quite an old granite flat - maybe late 40’s or 50’s construction, lath plaster walls etc

 

This is with the new meter installed 

and next a close up of the new meter 
 
Engineer was very good - from Manchester and knew which team to support (the one currently not winning). Has been working on THTC all year nearly all over Scotland - drives home at weekend in his OVO electric van - which has 110 mile range!

 


This is with the new meter installed ... 
  

Nice!

One question: the meter shows in the bottom right-hand corner of the display that the switched (i.e. offpeak) circuit was off go´o] when the photo was taken. The TimeGuard switch has a red lamp indicating that it was live, which might mean that whatever it’s timing was drawing power. Is this switch for something not wired to the offpeak circuit, so potentially on at peak times and thus rates? Or did you configure it to be on only during offpeak periods? 


Well here we go again - another no show by the OVO engineer to install a smart meter!!  This is the second time I have had an install date and no engineer shows up - no text, no phone call -nothing, even though their email 3 days before states that the engineer will phone or text on the day of the install. Another sitting at home all day when I have more important things to be doing.  What annoys me most is the total and utter waste of 2 days.  Surely it is at least a matter of courtesy to inform the customer if the engineer cant make it for whatever reason. At least that will be another £30 in compensation. 

Will now have to wait until OVO get round to contacting me again to offer a new date - at this rate its going to be next year before I get the new meter installed.  An official complaint will be going in this time. And I again get a text message asking how satisfied I was with the engineer today - you can guess the response to that question.

I would also appreciate if any of the Ovo Community Moderators could investigate why this Smart meter install failed again.  I am sure I am not alone in this and what makes it so galling is that I see my neighbours getting their new meters installed without a hitch. Grrrr


This is with the new meter installed ... 
  

Nice!

One question: the meter shows in the bottom right-hand corner of the display that the switched (i.e. offpeak) circuit was off go´o] when the photo was taken. The TimeGuard switch has a red lamp indicating that it was live, which might mean that whatever it’s timing was drawing power. Is this switch for something not wired to the offpeak circuit, so potentially on at peak times and thus rates? Or did you configure it to be on only during offpeak periods? 

It's a water heater on the 24/7 side of the board. On THTC this used to be charged at cheap rate. We removed the 120l hot water tank and fitted 15l water heater, no bath and electric shower. My dad controls this manually, could be programmed but he does not like that. 


We had very good text Comms from the metering engineer on day of appointment. 


We had very good text Comms from the metering engineer on day of appointment. 

I wish I had but just------nothing.  If the engineer could just let me know he wouldn’t make it I could get other things done during the day.  My appointment was for 10:00am so no excuse from them.


Early days but my new smart meter appears to have gone without a hitch.  Kept fully informed by OVO and the engineer when he would be here.  Meter fitted on Monday and all seems to be working perfectly on Economy 10.  IHD connected immediately and the meter seems to be sending readings to OVO already. 


Hi @metalsman,

 

I’m sorry to hear this.

 

If the engineer failed to attend without at least 24 hours notice of a cancellation, you may be eligible for a standard £30 compensation known as Guaranteed Standards of Performance (GSOP) payment.

 

Please contact our Support Team to get this appointment rebooked.

 

This thread may be helpful: 

 

 

Hi @Mo59

 

I’m glad to hear everything is going well for you so far!


Hi @metalsman,

I’m sorry to hear this.

If the engineer failed to attend without at least 24 hours notice of a cancellation, you may be eligible for a standard £30 compensation known as Guaranteed Standards of Performance (GSOP) payment.

Please contact our Support Team to get this appointment rebooked.

 

Update on the saga of no show engineers.  Spoke with CS at RTS smart meter install (@Shads_OVO, your link with the phone number above to the support team for smart meter installs for RTS shutdown is incorrect as I found out to my cost yesterday) with a new smart meter install date of 28th November.  Lets hope its 3rd time lucky or its the Energy Ombudsman  and the Task Force thats my next port of call. Compensation for no-show of £30 added to my online account.


I’m sorry to hear this @metalsman, I’ll find out if there is a specific number for RTS smart meter bookings. Do you have the number you called with success? 

I’m glad to hear the appointment has been re booked & your compensation is on it’s way. 


I’m sorry to hear this @metalsman, I’ll find out if there is a specific number for RTS smart meter bookings. Do you have the number you called with success? 

I’m glad to hear the appointment has been re booked & your compensation is on it’s way. 

The phone number is 0333 034 1622. I had to log into my online account and go to the smart meter install tab and it came up with the specific  number for RTS replacement as it recognises from your account that you have an unusual meter setup. Hope this helps.


Just watched the BBC Panorama programme this evening on smart meters. All very disappointing & worrying with so many not working correctly smart meters. Even more extraordinary, absolutely no mention of the RTS switch off next June which supposedly means thousands & thousands of people will have no choice except to add to the woeful statistics. Why has this RTS situation been told to or been picked up by the media. What is going on here? Is it as desperate as we are being told?


And that’s exactly why you shouldn’t just blindly believe what they put on TV without checking for yourself.

Looks like I’m in for a long week...


And that’s exactly why you shouldn’t just blindly believe what they put on TV without checking for yourself.

Looks like I’m in for a long week...

All I was asking is why nobody in the media has picked up on the RTS switch off & what it means for people/smart meters!

 


Ohhhh OK, sorry! I thought you were after something else!!!

FULL DISCLOSURE: @Blastoise186 works in the Film & TV/Film & Media industry these days, but remains in an IT Admin role and doesn’t work for any news vendor, outlet or publisher. His views are his own and also don’t reflect those of OVO. Likewise, he has no control over what gets published in newspapers or broadcast on TV. He doesn’t even write the news either! :)

Now that is an interesting question. Honestly wish I could answer that, but the truth is I genuinely don’t have a clue. The closest I’ve got is basically the guide I wrote for this thread you’re in now, and the one I wrote a few years ago. Both of them have been reviewed by OVO’s teams at least once and as far as we know, they’re accurate.

My only guess - and this really is just a guess so please don’t send the lawyers after me - is that perhaps the RTS side/element of the story “wasn’t as interesting” or noteworthy enough to make the final cut perhaps?

If you think about it, big scary “Smart Meters are broken for everyone” story is what gets the headlines and makes the money. Some teeny tiny RTS Story that only affects a “small number” of customers just doesn’t have the same level of appeal to it.


Actually, there WAS an RTS shutdown item on the BBC Scotland News a few weeks ago.


I’m sorry to hear this @metalsman, I’ll find out if there is a specific number for RTS smart meter bookings. Do you have the number you called with success? 

I’m glad to hear the appointment has been re booked & your compensation is on it’s way. 

The phone number is 0333 034 1622. I had to log into my online account and go to the smart meter install tab and it came up with the specific  number for RTS replacement as it recognises from your account that you have an unusual meter setup. Hope this helps.



I can only find this number referenced by a customer in another RTS topic. I’d advise reaching out to the support team who can put you through to the correct department. I’m sorry for any confusion caused.


Not much happening on this forum section so I thought I’d post a wee update - briefly.

A whole month now since out RTS switch to smart-meter E10 !

Difficult to be certain (yet) but things appear to be functioning - and we (still) have heating and hot water - woohoo. Have been manually monitoring daily/hourly consumption via the visual display/monitor - just to keep a paper record in case of any future ‘discrepancies’ or ‘inaccuracies’ when we finally get our first bill !!!   Impossible to decipher the minimal figures showing up on our account pages so far despite the blurb assuring me that our meter  IS  sending in readings “every half-hour”  - hm …

I will be fascinated to see what bill eventually surfaces and whether it makes any sense - but I’m not happy that putting up accurate figures to my account is simply not being done … yet - all I can see is the standing charges ! and the final THTC readings ! £20 +/- … if only that WERE the whole picture ! hah

More anon…

PS.  As my credit balance is pretty healthy right now I thought I’d request a bit of a refund … seasonal bonus etc ? Anyway - request denied : as, apparently, we haven’t been sending in meter readings over the past 28 days !!! !!!  Aaaaaaargh    Smart-meter efficiency automated advantages !!! aye

Does my confidence in the system remain high ?   You tell me.


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