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Smart meter failed.  No display. Will not wake up, no warnings (Audiable) or on the smart meter in-house display  Spoke to Cadet they said the meter faulty.   Why do smart meters fail closed?  The fail appeared on Saturday afternoon, Central heating boiler detected no gas ignition.  Cadet said OVO are responsible for the meter and require it to be replaced.  Just seems mad to fail closed.  No heating/hot water for nearly 2 days.

I assume as the fault is with the OVO there will be a compensation owed for inconvenience.

 

Meter approx 10 years old.

Best answer by Jess_OVO

 

I’m so sorry to hear your gas meter battery failed, @gareth, particularly as this left you off-supply. 

 

All gas meters (Smart and traditional) have an internal battery that power them. This is designed to last for up to 20 years, with a meter recertification (exchanging the meter to replace it with a new one) scheduled every 10 years, so it’s unusual for this issue to crop up so soon. If your gas smart meter is making a beeping sound, it indicates that the battery is low and the meter will need replacing. If the battery fails this can affect the supply, as in your case, so it’s important to reach out to our Support Team if you do ever notice that your meter is beeping.

 

It’s really distressing to hear that this happened out-of-hours and you were unable to give us a call. For electricity, the Distribution Network Operator in your region can be contacted directly when an energy supplier is closed, and the electricity meter is off supply due to fault. They should be able to replace that meter and get the property back on supply. This safeguard is in place as electricity is considered an essential service with medical equipment and even medicines in fridges requiring a continuous electricity supply. With that in mind, we always advise anyone in such a situation to register for the priority services register.

 

In a scenario where the gas meter is faulty and off supply and the energy supplier is closed, the National Grid will be unable to replace the meter. In the case of OVO Energy, our Support team are on hand 6 days a week to help arrange a short notice engineer visit to replace that meter. Our Social team are able to support you as well - send them a message on Facebook or Twitter from 9am - 5pm, Saturday and Sunday. This team are also able to schedule in an emergency meter appointment if needed.

 

I’m hoping you’ve managed to get through to the team to arrange a same-day emergency appointment already. Keep us posted if you need any extra help. 

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I’m so sorry to hear your gas meter battery failed, @gareth, particularly as this left you off-supply. 

 

All gas meters (Smart and traditional) have an internal battery that power them. This is designed to last for up to 20 years, with a meter recertification (exchanging the meter to replace it with a new one) scheduled every 10 years, so it’s unusual for this issue to crop up so soon. If your gas smart meter is making a beeping sound, it indicates that the battery is low and the meter will need replacing. If the battery fails this can affect the supply, as in your case, so it’s important to reach out to our Support Team if you do ever notice that your meter is beeping.

 

It’s really distressing to hear that this happened out-of-hours and you were unable to give us a call. For electricity, the Distribution Network Operator in your region can be contacted directly when an energy supplier is closed, and the electricity meter is off supply due to fault. They should be able to replace that meter and get the property back on supply. This safeguard is in place as electricity is considered an essential service with medical equipment and even medicines in fridges requiring a continuous electricity supply. With that in mind, we always advise anyone in such a situation to register for the priority services register.

 

In a scenario where the gas meter is faulty and off supply and the energy supplier is closed, the National Grid will be unable to replace the meter. In the case of OVO Energy, our Support team are on hand 6 days a week to help arrange a short notice engineer visit to replace that meter. Our Social team are able to support you as well - send them a message on Facebook or Twitter from 9am - 5pm, Saturday and Sunday. This team are also able to schedule in an emergency meter appointment if needed.

 

I’m hoping you’ve managed to get through to the team to arrange a same-day emergency appointment already. Keep us posted if you need any extra help. 


No gas 


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Hi @Gillian Turnbull can you add more info?

Gas meter out of credit?

No supply?

We can then perhaps try to help


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Hey @Gillian Turnbull,

 

Sorry for the issues you’re having,

 

If your pay as you go with Boost, please contact their Support Team

 

If your off supply with OVO, all your gas appliances aren’t working and the issue appears to be the meter, please call Support to arrange an emergency appointment. 

 

Hope this helps. 


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Hi, can anyone from OVO confirm in writing what the behaviour is for its latest SMETS2 gas meters if the battery fails, for pay monthly i.e. credit customers? Does the gas valve remain open, or does the meter instruct the valve to close before the battery dies?

The fail-safe mode should be open, as having the valve closing the gas off could cause serious damage e.g. if house unoccupied in winter and so pipes freeze. I am aware that the meter should emit warning tones, but that does not help if nobody is there to hear them.

And could the gas meters not use some miniature flow turbine to trickle-charge the battery, so that this does not need to be regularly replaced?

Thanks, Mike


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vrmike wrote:

Hi, can anyone from OVO confirm in writing what the behaviour is for its latest SMETS2 gas meters if the battery fails, for pay monthly i.e. credit customers? Does the gas valve remain open, or does the meter instruct the valve to close before the battery dies?

The fail-safe mode should be open, as having the valve closing the gas off could cause serious damage e.g. if house unoccupied in winter and so pipes freeze. I am aware that the meter should emit warning tones, but that does not help if nobody is there to hear them.

And could the gas meters not use some miniature flow turbine to trickle-charge the battery, so that this does not need to be regularly replaced?

Thanks, Mike

Not sure about the valve situation @vrmike but the battery should last around 10 years


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Please do not rely on this as I’m still looking things up.

As far as I can remember, S2 Gas Meters might try to keep the supply active if the battery dies while in Credit Mode. However, - in common with ALL other gas meters - they will close the valve if the battery is about to die while in Prepayment Mode in order to prevent fraud.


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Thank you for your reply. It would be great to get an authoritative response from OVO on whether the valve stays opens or is shut if the battery dies for the latest gas meters installed by them when in credit mode.

There are contradictory replies on this forum, and to be clear this is for credit mode (not prepayment mode which shuts the valve when battery fails).

While the battery should last 10 years, there are reports of them failing much sooner than that.  It is disappointing that there is no trickle-charging of these batteries. The battery is most likely to fail in cold weather, which is precisely when one would not want the gas to be turned off if one is away, due to the risk of water damage after frozen pipes. I have not been able to update all the lagging on the pipework under the floorboards in our 1930’s house due to access difficulties in one area, hence there remains a small risk of this happening.


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Hi @vrmike, thanks for posting.

 

As this is a customer forum, it’s not a natural fit for getting official responses or advice from OVO directly. Our Support team are well placed to help. 

 

But I can relate to my own experiences when asked this question in the past. If memory serves, the valve should stay in an open position when the battery dies, but this is not always the case. Hence why if the battery dies but the supply isn’t disconnected, the meter replacement appointment isn’t considered an emergency. If the supply is disconnected, an engineer will visit that same day to do a meter exchange. 

 

For anyone else reading who might be in the same situation, this is the number to call to arrange the appointment: 0330 303 5063.


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Who can I phone out of hours? My dad in law since 5pm tonight has no Gas, unable to cook and no heating. He is vulnerable heart issues, mobility issues  uses a zimmer. I phoned so many places tonight to try get him warmth to no avail


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Not many options for gas at this hour I’m afraid. If it was electricity then 105 could have worked.

Please post photos of the meters.


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Hi @AbiBin17,

 

I hope your father in law has been able to arrange an emergency engineer, if a meter fault was confirmed as the cause of being off supply? 

 

Blastoise is correct that there’s no third party who can visit to perform work on the gas meter, so contact to OVO needs to be made between 8am-6pm to our Support team

 

If your father in law hasn’t already, please recommend that they sign up to the Priority Services register


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Hi

Thanks for your replies, I have added him to the priority list as he's immobile,has heart issues and unable to go out or answer his door. 

I made him breakfast here this morning and my husband handed I'm the hot food to him on his way to work this morning..An engineer is booked before 12.50 today  hopefully he will have warmth later today.

Thank you

Anne


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HI @AbiBin17

Hopefully it all gets sorted today. 

Out of hours emergency contact options are not great with lots of suppliers. 

If you ever think about helping him switch, it might be worth looking at Octopus. At least on paper their emergency contact options out of hours look much better than OVO via both phone and email. 

https://octopus.energy/blog/power-cut/#:~:text=Call%20our%20freephone%20line%200808,reach%20our%20team%2024%2F7.

 

 

 


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I’ve been waiting for an engineer to come and fix my meter I have no gas so no heating and no hot water. My newborn grandchild is staying with me and the house is freezing. The engineer is failed to turn up and no phone call don’t know what to do as OVO don’t have a number to contact them out of hours 


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Hey @Kemolash,

 

So sorry to hear this, it sounds like a very stressful situation to be in.

 

The following topic might have some helpful information:

 

 

*Taken from the above topic* In a scenario where the gas meter is faulty and off supply and the energy supplier is closed, the National Grid will be unable to replace the meter. In the case of OVO Energy, our Support team are on hand 6 days a week to help arrange a short notice engineer visit to replace that meter. Our Social team are able to support you as well - send them a message on Facebook or Twitter from 9am - 5pm, Saturday and Sunday. This team are also able to schedule in an emergency meter appointment if needed.

 

Have you managed to contact the Support Team today to re-book your emergency appointment? 

 


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Lost gas supply this morning. Smart meter not working. 
OVO call centre closed until Monday, what can I do to get my gas supplies back?


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https://help.ovoenergy.com . Live Chat is open until 2PM on Saturdays.

Also, there’s options like WhatsApp and OVO’s social media which are also monitored at weekends


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Have a faulty meter but have gas supply

5 cancelled appointments by OVO as non emergency. Whilst this is going on OVO refuse to reduce DD.

How do I get this problem, which belongs to OVO fixed, I am the only one suffering.


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Hey @Intend,

 

I’ve responded to you on this thread:

 

https://forum.ovoenergy.com/smart-meters-136/no-meter-reading-cancelled-appointments-and-a-need-to-reduce-my-dd-15284

 

If your meter has stopped showing readings, the estimated usage should be based on your previous usage:

 

 

So it should in theory be in line with your usage previously, if the meter was showing high consumption then this could have skewed the EAC. If you’d like to upload a screenshot of your meter readings page we could take a look into this further. Unfortunately, we don’t have access to your account so can only make assumptions based on the information you’ve provided. 

 

 


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gareth wrote:

Smart meter failed.  No display. Will not wake up, no warnings (Audiable) or on the smart meter in-house display  Spoke to Cadet they said the meter faulty.   Why do smart meters fail closed?  The fail appeared on Saturday afternoon, Central heating boiler detected no gas ignition.  Cadet said OVO are responsible for the meter and require it to be replaced.  Just seems mad to fail closed.  No heating/hot water for nearly 2 days.

I assume as the fault is with the OVO there will be a compensation owed for inconvenience.

 

Meter approx 10 years old.

 

 

This is very useful to know. I was thinking of installing smart meters because of the mails I am getting from OVO to get smart meters installed. From all the responses, it seems there’s hardly a party to accept ownership/accountability if something goes wrong like this with smart meters.


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It’s not very often that they fail however. I wouldn’t worry too much.

And tbh, when your existing meter dies (which they all do eventually), your next one would be Smart anyway.


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Lost gas supply this morning. Smart meter not working. 
OVO call centre closed until Monday, what can I do to get my gas supplies back?

Thank you for sharing this. This is very useful to know. It sounds like Smart meters aren’t matured enough tech to rely on; especially when it comes to something as crucial as the energy supply. 


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@knightbeat but how do you know it was the Smart functionality that failed? If the valve closed, the battery died or the Ultrasonic Sensor failed for example, that’s not Smart functionality - that’s normal gas meter functionality found in both Smart and Non-Smart.

Batteries die. that’s always been the case.


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Blastoise186 wrote:

It’s not very often that they fail however. I wouldn’t worry too much.

And tbh, when your existing meter dies (which they all do eventually), your next one would be Smart anyway.

I saw that Octopus Energy has reinstalled an analogue meter after a customer complained about their existing smart meter. @Turratim  has mentioned that their supply was cut off due to a faulty smart meter and the OVO call centre is closed until Monday. If the smart meter tech is that unreliable in its current state, can Energy Suppliers say that someone’s next meter would be a Smart Meter anyway?


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