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Power Move for low users

  • December 19, 2023
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I get that the idea is to lower usage overall, which is fine.

But I already struggle to pay my bills, and so I’ve already cut down anything and everything I can:

  • I use the washing machine once every two weeks, after 11pm
  • I shower once a week, as fast as possible, after 11pm
  • I’ve turned off the boiler completely
  • I use the oven once every 2 weeks
  • I have a single small light I use when it gets dark
  • I have a single small electric heater, which I use as little as possible
  • I keep myself warm at night with a warm water bottle and extra sheets, which is much better than heating or even a heated blanket
  • I don’t have a tumble dryer
  • Everything is turned off at the socket at all times, except for the fridge, the smart meter, and the doorbell

To make it worse, I work from home, so I’m home a lot. But also, where I live, shops close at 3pm, so if I do go out, it’s before that time - almost ascertaining I’ll be home between 4 & 7. Not always, but usually.

I’d love a £15 discount. I managed to get to 13.9% (out of 13.5%) somehow. But it truly seems impossible, I can’t think of anything else to cut down.

The only other thing I thought of, was to try and use -more- electricity outside of peak hours on purpose, but that seems counter-productive to the whole point? And it’s also risky, because if I then -don’t- meet the challenge, I just wasted money.

Best answer by Abby_OVO

Updated on 20/02/26 by Abby_OVO

 

Hey @AilitaV 

 

I hope everyone’s comments have been helpful, there’s a lot to go through - so thank you to everyone for chipping in!

 

Like many have said, restricting yourself that much is not the aim of Power Move, and you should continue to make use outside of the Power Move timeframe, and simply restrict what you use during that 5-7pm.

 

I’ve taken this quote directly from the Power Move homepage, “Power Move is about rewarding you for using energy in a way that’s better for the planet. That doesn’t mean using any less energy. Instead, we challenge you to use energy at greener times of the day – in return for credit on your energy bill”.

 

There’s also some really helpful topics with hints and tips on ways to help meet the target, or the impact of having no other usage can have on ability to meet the target:

 

 

I hope all of this has been helpful so far, and if you’ve got any other questions, just let us know.🙂

 

I’ve included some links below to some handy pages on our website that give tips on understanding your usage and reducing it 👇

 

https://www.ovoenergy.com/help/article/how-we-show-your-energy-use

https://www.ovoenergy.com/guides/how-to-save-money-on-your-energy-bills

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waltyboy
Rank 8
Rank 8
December 19, 2023

Hello @AilitaV, Low users who are already struggling financially have my heartfelt sympathy. Today’s political climate in the UK has fostered a thoroughly inequitable energy burden on less well off folk. 

However, I do think OVO have come up with a good initiative in Power Move. I believe Power Move Plus is harder for low users to achieve (dropping usage by even a tiny amount of, say, 0.2 kWh for an hour is an impossible target if you’re only using 0.15 kWh anyway; let alone a target drop of 0.5 kWh or 1kWh, that really does not apply to low users). 
 

But Power Move is a different thing altogether, yes, difficult to meet for low users, but the proposition is that whatever your weekday usage is, be it small, medium, or large, ensure that during 4-7PM on a weekday (weekends and bank holidays don’t count, so we can relax a bit then!), you use no more than your average usage in any other 3 hour weekday slot. The “weekday” here means the 24-hour weekday, of course. So, if your weekday usage is, say, 1.2 kWh on average per day (which will be averaged out over the 19 weekdays of December…we’ve had 11 of them so far, 12 if you count today, Tuesday 19th), which is a phenomenally low usage, that averages out to 150 Wh over each of the 8 three-hour weekday periods, awake, asleep, day or night.  That is the target to aim for within the 4-7 slot to achieve the Power Move Target for December…in fact at 13.5% you can even be a tiny bit more generous and go to 160 Wh during that crucial 4-7 slot. So, even if you have such a really small weekday consumption (it doesn't directly matter for Power Move how much you use between midnight Friday and midnight Sunday), it might be possible to achieve the magic figure of 150-ish Wh over the 4-7 slot, say, 50 Wh per hour. There’s been some great advice here on the specifics of how to drop consumption even lower than that. My own feeling is that in modern times, a daily electricity usage of anything below 2kWh would be an impossibly big ask. Even with PV panels and a battery, dark UK winter days are, to say the least, difficult; something around 3-6kWh per day is more normal “low” usage I’m guessing. Don’t tell me you’re now going to say your daily electricity usage is below 2kWh?! Anyway, whatever your usage, Power Move works on percentages, not absolute values, so it’s for everyone.

Although weekend (and Bank Holiday) consumption doesn’t directly impact for Power Move purposes, indirectly it could have a bearing: if you’re doing tasks over the weekend, any electrical task no matter how small that could possibly be moved to a weekday (outside the 4-7 slot, obvs!!), then do that. Anything to make your 4-7 slot “look good”. 
 

£15 a month is a hugely important target for me to aim for, as I’m a low user and 50-odd free kWh of electricity a month is a major deal for me (or, put another way, cancelling out a month’s worth of the iniquitous standing charge). So I’m all for OVO giving me this chance. But, it’s not worth sitting in the dark or cold for, or risking your physical health and mental well-being over, and most definitely not during cold winter months when we can become debilitated and depressed without even noticing it. 
 

It would be great if you could give us, say, at least a week’s worth of your daily electricity usage (in kWh, not in £) including at least one weekend, and an idea of anything you might use 4-7 other than your one LED bulb you mention, your doorbell transformer (we used to switch off our doorbell transformer when we went to bed, but switching it off at 4PM might not be convenient), your fridge/freezer(s).  You mention a small electric heater, I hope that is enough for you to stay comfortably warm? If your heater is clicking in and out over your 4-7 period, that unfortunately would be enough to be a problem. Somebody also queried your kettle usage, is it an electric kettle you use or a gas hob kettle…you mention warming a hot water bottle. 
 

Finally, and I hesitate to say this, but mathematically if you were to spend an extra £5 monthly on electricity during a weekday (outside 4-7 of course), say switching your boiler back on from, say, 2 until 3.30 PM, then that would, financially speaking, be worth your while if it nudges your 4-7 weekday slot usage down under 13.5%. As you say, you’d have to be ultra strict in monitoring this or you’d just be spending an extra fiver for nothing. Except to be more comfortable of an evening, especially if you’re WFH! And yes, it’s counter intuitive to be burning more fossil fuel overall instead of less, and I am indeed lost in awe of your single-minded reduction in your usage (well done you), but the spirit of this exercise is to move usage outside the 4-7 slot weekday slot, which you wouldn’t actually be countermanding, If that’s the right word? Any rate, you wouldn’t be contravening the underlying rationale of Power Move, similarly for moving stuff out of the “invisible” weekends to visible weekday slots. 
 

We fellow consumers on this forum are rooting for you, if there is any way at all we can share experiences to help each other out, especially low consumption users, then rest assured we will do so…and all the very best of luck to you at this holiday time. Do let us know how you are getting on with that paper and pencil!  Your in-home display should help if you examine its daily, weekly and monthly figures using kWh (not £).  
 

EDIT:    And cheers @Nukecad, great post above…I’d typed my response here before I’d had a chance to read your post, exactly the sort of specifics that I was thinking of, expressed very well by you, with great advice from yourself…

 

 

 

 

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Firedog
Super User
Super User
December 19, 2023

Using these techniques I can drop my usage by something like 95%, but only for an hour!!! 

    

Steve, I’m afraid you’re confusing the issue a bit. Your tricks for reducing consumption for an hour or so will certainly help to earn a reward for a Power Move Plus challenge. At the same time, you’ll be demonstrating that it is possible (a) to get people to reduce their demand for electricity at times when the grid might otherwise struggle to meet it, and (b) to get people to do this with just a few hours’ notice.

@AilitaV is having trouble meeting the Power Move target of getting her consumption between 4PM and 7PM below the (current) 13.5% threshold. This is a different exercise with a different purpose, and despite what several customers have written in this thread, it’s very much worth it for (particularly) low users. The £15 reward is enough to pay the standing charge for a whole household.

I’ve mentioned this often before: check how much electricity you’re using between, say, 2:30AM and 5:30AM on an ordinary day. This is likely to be a good indicator of your essential background usage, and it’s a good target to aim for for the 4-7PM slot. 

Not to forget, of course, that the Power Move challenge applies to weekdays only. It will be easier to meet if any power-heavy usage can be shifted from the weekend to, say, a weekday morning. That might be washing or hoovering, for example. It won’t affect your total consumption, but it would increase your chances of meeting the target for weekday 4-7PM consumption.

Last, a word about the hot-water bottles and electric blankets Ailita mentioned. To heat up 1.4l of water (the capacity of my hot-water bottle) to 60º takes about 80Wh of electricity. That’s enough to keep a small electric blanket going for four hours. You’d need less than a quarter of that just to get the bed nice and warm before crawling in. 

You haven’t mentioned hot water - where does this come from? Electric water heaters of any type are real energy guzzlers, to be used with extreme caution.

 

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Rank 6
December 19, 2023

Sorry, if I’m confusing people.  I didn’t mean to!!!  I though was saying that I can get up to 95% savings for the odd hour long one off (Power Move Plus/DFS) events; it’s a little challenging, but for a couple of quid it’s just about worthwhile.   But, several of my techniques don’t work for much longer than an hour, and doing them every weekday would definitely be tedious, so achieving the Power Move target isn’t that easy for me, and I’ve never made it.  The situation and possible solutions for everybody will different.  I just hope that my techniques described in my previous contribution might be useful to others.  Is there any milage in people who have Smart Thermostats, slighting increasing their house and/or water temperatures from 3pm till 4pm (on weekdays), and returning to normal at 4pm, then no energy should needed to heat them for at least an hour???

AilitaVAuthor
Rank 2
December 19, 2023

Yes use more electric outside of peak hours, the % of use inside peak hours will then be less. Tbh the amount of hassle you're taking I'm not sure if it's worth it. 

Not too much hassle for me luckily, these are the things I always do by default. ^^; Which is why it’s so hard to lower it.

AilitaVAuthor
Rank 2
December 19, 2023

Power Move Plus is a better option for low users as you get a personal target rather than a percentage of averages. The reward in financial terms is not high but you can achieve a little bit which helps. 

 

What’s Power Move Plus? And any reward is welcome!

AilitaVAuthor
Rank 2
December 19, 2023

One thing you don’t mention is using a kettle. If you don’t already, make sure you don’t use the kettle between 4 and 7. We manage this by boiling the kettle before 4pm and filling a flask so we can have a cuppa at 5 or six. 
Also, because they only average the weekday usage, ensuring your washing machine and showers are on a weekday might make a difference. 
But yes, the less you use the more difficult it is to reach the target. 
Next month it looks like they are doing graded rewards with £15 only for those reaching 11.5% dropping to £6 for 13% and only £3 for 14%. On that scale you will at least get £3 for your efforts. 

best of luck

 

I have an electric water boiling machine. I assume that’s a kettle? I don’t use it between 4 & 7. I use it twice a week to boil water for coffee - only exactly enough water for 1 cup! I also use it as needed to fill my warm water bottle, which is roughly 2-3 times per week (during winter only), after 11pm.

The tip about using during the week is good, I didn’t know it didn’t count weekends. I may sometimes randomly wash on the weekend, and I usually shower Friday night, so I’ll pay attention to do these things during the week instead.

AilitaVAuthor
Rank 2
December 19, 2023

Maybe a heated throw would be good while you work.  You seem to be doing all you can.

Why do thing after 11pm - or am I missing something.

What’s a heated throw? Is it more efficient than my heater? Is it cheap to buy?

After 11pm, evening tariff kicks in, which is much cheaper than daytime tariff.

AilitaVAuthor
Rank 2
December 19, 2023

Can you share some figures on monthly kwh usage so we can do the math and tell you what you need to use? With such low use, I assume £15 is a relatively large % of your total bill. 

Monthly kwh use?

Background energy use? - kW/Watts

In August, I had 120 kWh for the month, however that was before I turned off the boiler and started taking more extreme measures. In winter, unfortunately it’s much more. In October, I had 200 kWh. December is not looking good for me at all.. Unfortunately, I easily get cold. The heater is pretty much the main culprit I think. And any time I shower or use the washing machine, my usage spikes up for that day. £15 would help massively yes, since I usually pay £60-80.

What’s background energy use?

AilitaVAuthor
Rank 2
December 19, 2023

Hi there,

      The techniques I use to drop my usage for just the required hour are:

  1. Make sure laptop is charged up beforehand, then unplug it.
  2. Turn the thermostat on the fridge (and freezer) down (i.e. to a higher number) for an hour beforehand, and then turn it back to normal  just before the period starts, so that it doesn’t need to come on for an hour. 
  3. I do the same for the CH, but that doesn’t apply to you, but suggest you do heat the room a little using you electric heater before the start, so you don’t need to use it for the hour.
  4. Turn the tele off, and watch something on my laptop, like BBCi or Sky News.
  5. Use candles and a torch.
  6. If you if have to leave on any lights, make sure that they are the modern LED, or fluorescent ones and not the old tungsten ones.

Using these techniques I can drop my usage by something like 95%, but only for an hour!!!  I use the Smartmeter to check this is working; I can get down to 30W or so, from my usual 500W plus.  Suggest you use yours to measure what each of your devices is actually using.  I have always managed to get some money for Power Move Plus events, but have never managed to achieve the Power Move targets, because I am a fairly low user, and have little demand that I can move.

    Rgds,

           Steve

 

 

    

Thank you for your tips, I really appreciate it.

  1. I don’t have a laptop, and I do make sure to charge my phone only at 11pm, only for as long as needed, which is once or twice a week for 10-20 minutes.
  2. What’s a thermostat on the fridge? Is that to say how cold the fridge is? Are you saying I can safely reduce the fridge temperature without risking to spoil the food?
  3. I only use my electric heater when it’s too cold not to, and I turn it off as soon as I start to feel comfortable. I try to have it on as little as possible during the 4-7 period, but unfortunately I still need it, I get cold easily.
  4. Don’t have a television alas.
  5. This I could consider. Is there no health risk with having a candle on next to you for an extended period of time? And a torch - like the little portable light? I do have a desk lamp that I use (instead of my main light), is there something more efficient than that?
  6. I do use the bathroom & kitchen light from time to time. I’m pretty sure they’re all LED. I found the packaging, it says: Energizer LED GLS, 4.9v, 5kWh / 1000h. Is that good or nah?

When you say 30W, is that 30kWh used over the month? Sorry, I’m really bad with this sort of stuff. I believe it’s my heater, washing machine, and shower that use by far the most.

AilitaVAuthor
Rank 2
December 19, 2023

I think, as others have said, you misunderstand what power move is for. It isn't aimed at low usage users as you're already not using much as it is! We always meet the target this month our peak usage was only 5.65% we have an EV so it isn't charged at peak times, and we're a electric only household no mains gas so the only thing we normally do during peak time is cook and we try and avoid that if we can. Washing, dishwasher, tumble isn't done at peak times. Both the wife and I wfh quite often (I'm wfh today and we both will be tomorrow) but normally we're done by 4pm and 2 days a week there won't be anyone home from 4-7 daughters at gymnastics training until 8pm and the wife quite often works away 1 or 2 days a week.  I think you're basically making your life uncomfortable to try and meet an impossible target. 

What is an EV?

I’m also electric only.

I suppose I should make sure to eat only after 7 when possible, that could help.

Don’t have a tumble dryer or dishwasher, and I only use the washing machine once every two weeks after 11pm.

I understand I’m not the ideal target for this offer, but £15 would be really nice, so I really want to try.