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Firedog
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  • January 7, 2025

OK, that’s more like it. The meter’s just ticking over as if no-one’s home, except when something kicks in. That looks like a heater (“while the radiator is on it only automatically turns on if it is less than 18C”) and perhaps a water heater’s thermostat reacting to falling temperature. 

I did some sums: if as you say the radiator is ‘normally’ only on for three hours a day, then that’s presumably what we’re seeing on days like 6, 10, 14 and 21 December, when you used about 15 kWh. That suggests a load of about 4 kW for heating. If the heating had kicked in on 4 January (when the temperature dropped to -4°C for the second night running in London), the usage chart suggests that it could have been on all day, or perhaps less but the water heater fired up as well. You’ll just have to check when you get back. Systems like this often have some sort of frost protection to avoid problems like frozen water pipes.

There’s usually a rational explanation for the sort of behaviour you’re seeing.

 


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  • January 7, 2025
Firedog wrote:

OK, that’s more like it. The meter’s just ticking over as if no-one’s home, except when something kicks in. That looks like a heater (“while the radiator is on it only automatically turns on if it is less than 18C”) and perhaps a water heater’s thermostat reacting to falling temperature. 

I did some sums: if as you say the radiator is ‘normally’ only on for three hours a day, then that’s presumably what we’re seeing on days like 6, 10, 14 and 21 December, when you used about 15 kWh. That suggests a load of about 4 kW for heating. If the heating had kicked in on 4 January (when the temperature dropped to -4°C for the second night running in London), the usage chart suggests that it could have been on all day, or perhaps less but the water heater fired up as well. You’ll just have to check when you get back. Systems like this often have some sort of frost protection to avoid problems like frozen water pipes.

There’s usually a rational explanation for the sort of behaviour you’re seeing.

 

Okay, I’ll check when I get back but I just got a breakdown of usage for the week of 30th December - 5th January and it does show the majority of my usage is on heating but you can also see usage for entertainment, lighting, and cooking which doesn’t make any sense since I have been gone this whole week. 
 

 


Firedog
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  • January 8, 2025

I’m afraid you can’t really gain anything from those estimates. They’re really just guesses at which equipment is in use at any particular time, based on what is known about how they draw power. If you really wanted them to be a bit more accurate, you could have altered your profile to take out the appliances you know wouldn’t be in use while you were away (like cookers), but it still would have assumed that some of the load was for lighting, say.

Quite frankly, you can’t draw any conclusions from them at all while the house is empty. When you’re back, they should give a guide to how consumption has changed from one week to the next, but again, the figures just aren’t to be relied upon.


Emmanuelle_OVO
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  • January 8, 2025

Hey ​@NidaSheikh 
 

NidaSheikh wrote:

Here are the readings from the website. I do say this a lot for an empty house. I think I might be paying someone else’s bill. 
 


The below topic may helpful:
 

 

How do I perform a Creep Test on my electricity meter?


If you’ve been unable to get to the bottom of an increase in our usage by locating a greedy appliance, the next step would be to carry out an initial check on the accuracy of the meter with a ‘Creep Test’. To carry this out: turn off the power to your fuse box and check if the meter continues to clock. If the meter clocks (more than 1 - 2 units which could be down to residual power in the wires)  then it's either faulty, or clocking someone else’s usage.

 

If your meter is in a communal meter cupboard, sometimes the meter details can get mixed up. Firstly it’s worth checking the meter serial number on the meter matches the serial number registered on your account. You can see this on the ‘Meter readings’ page of your online account.


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  • February 4, 2025

Hello, I am new to OVO Energy and I noticed that my gas bills were unusually high. Upon calculating and checking further, I noticed my KWH for gas did not accurately reflect my consumption.

 

For example: 

20th December 2024 reading: 6116.0

31st December 2024 reading: 6137.843

19th January 2025 reading: 6183.392

 

From 31st-2oth December they said my consumption was: 695.37Kwh

From 19th January - 31st December they said my consumption was: 1453.71 Kwh

 

I looked at other posts in this forum and noticed that gas was measured in cubic feet and then converted to KWH using a formula and after my calculation, the Kwh being derived was still not as high as what Ovo was giving me.

 

Please can anyone confirm if I am wrong or if my usage is correctly being reflected or otherwise. I tried to contact OVO energy but they keep stating the obvious of the final bill rather than explaining the back end process of how the KWH figure was derived.

 

I’d really appreciate any help or clarity, thank you!

 


Blastoise186
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  • February 4, 2025

It’s important to note that this is actually *and unfortunately* normal for Estimated Readings. The only way to get accurate bills is to submit Actual Readings manually or get a Smart Meter to do it for you.

Please show me photos of your gas meter and screenshots of your Meter Readings page


Nukecad
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  • February 4, 2025
olivinco wrote:

I looked at other posts in this forum and noticed that gas was measured in cubic feet and then converted to KWH using a formula and after my calculation, the Kwh being derived was still not as high as what Ovo was giving me.
 

 

Actually gas is usually measured in cubic metres these days - unless you still have a very old meter.

Very old gas maters still measure in (hundreds of) cubic feet.

So the first question is are those meter readings on your bill in cubic feet or in cubic metres?
A photograph of your gas meter would tell us which it is.

Between 20th Dec and 19th Jan the bill is showing 67 of the metered units estimated as used - which to me looks typical for the number of cubic meters that  gas CH for a smalll flat would have used in that month.

It's difficult to be exact because the calorific value of gas varies, but using an average CV gives:

67 (hundreds of) CuFt of gas is roughly 2,181 kWh. so not too far off what your bill says.
However:
67 m3 of gas is roughly 770 kWh, a lot less

In other words, if your meter is measuring in cubic metres and not in cubic feet then OVO have calculated the number of kWh incorrectly.

 


Firedog
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olivinco wrote:

… gas was measured in cubic feet and then converted to KWH
  
  

Old ‘imperial’ meters measure in cubic feet (ft³), while newer ‘metric’ ones (younger than about 25 years!) measure in cubic meters (). There will be a clear marking on the meter itself which sort it is: 
 


Readings are taken from an imperial meter in multiples of 100 ft³, so the last few digits are ignored. The reading from the right-hand meter in the picture is 3868.

100 ft³ is ~2.83 m³. If your consumption seems from your bill to be about three times too big, it’s possible that the billing system has assumed your meter is an imperial one when it’s not. Sadly, this isn’t unheard of. The photo you’re about to post will make it clear.

You can see the instructions for calculating gas consumption in kWh from meter readings on the page I filched the picture from: Gas meter readings and bill calculation - GOV.UK . Once you’ve satisfied yourself that OVO have got it wrong, contact Support and ask them to put it right. I’d use the webchat option, so you can show your workings and also upload the photo to your account as evidence.

 

 

 


waltyboy
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  • February 4, 2025

Hi ​@olivinco Also, I maybe wrong about this, but my understanding is that estimated energy usage can be based on national averages for your type of dwelling (similar properties), a ball park figure which may not be directly relevant to one’s own actual usage.


Emmanuelle_OVO
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  • February 4, 2025

Hey ​@olivinco 

Welcome to the OVO online community 🙂

 

I can see our community members have already given some really helpful advice here. If you have any further questions let us know.


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