Does OVO supply a type of In Home Display unit for smart meters which also shows generation from solar panels? Where can I find user and installation instructions? I want to know if there is a meaningful comparison of electricity usage vs generation (including setting FiT rates), and I want to know how it connects e.g. to inverter’s wifi or current clamp onto solar wire.
Hi, this is an interesting and important topic. If all you want to know is how much you are exporting at that moment (a dial / live reading) then the IHD should show a negative reading for consumption. The problem is there are several types of meter (Smets 1 or Smets 2) and the different data they transmit. As far as I know, both will allow a live reading (which shows energy flow at the meter at that moment) but only Smets 2 has the ability to show export meters (ie a separate meter in kWh for how much you exported). I don’t use the OVO supplied IHD but use a product called the Glow Stick by Hildebrand which has a great app with lots of data (including live electricity flow through the meter). The app looks like this
You can clearly see my current export is 2700W.
You can purchase the Glow Stick from their website but make sure you purchase the correct one depending on your smart meter type (Smets 1 or Smets 2).
This is a good one actually. The exact answer depends on your setup. As far as I’m aware, it’s impossible for an IHD to show data from anything that’s not on the Home Area Network like a generation meter. If you had Smart Export Guarantee with your smart meter handling export metering, the IHD may be able to show this data depending on the IHD you’ve got, however this functionality is not supported for the Feed-in Tariff if memory serves.
I’m afraid in your case, there’s nothing out there that I can recommend because FiT cannot integrate with any smart meter that I’m aware of. I think @kevinmcintyre09might have some advice though.
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@Blastoise186 Is correct there is no easy integration of solar generation with smart meters.
We have had a number of solar monitoring products, but recently discontinued the devices as they were so old. This includes a pre-smart meter that measured import, export and generation, and we calculated consumption.
Justifying integration of this capability into our smart meter IHDs, we have struggled to do.
Within smart metering there is a twin element meter, which can be wired I believe to support generation. However, they are not very common, and I seem to recall some challenges with data going into the DCC.
The best you will do is buying a solar monitor, and manually working it out.
Our IHDs with the newer firmware support showing import/export live on a dial, and give you the import and export meter reads, but that is about it today.
Can you supply a link to the new IHD which can show import export live on a dial so I can see what this looks like and what it takes to capture solar data. I’m not so much interested in billing level accuracy rather to decide at a moment in time if there is enough solar to switch on both the washing machine and dishwasher without importing too much from grid.
Photos of that kind of IHD are extremely hard to come by I’m afraid. I can definitely show you photos of what the displays on a regular Geo IHD look like with the dial though. Their website at https://geotogether.com/ has a few photos of them if that helps.
The other snag is that Geo doesn’t currently sell any IHD products directly to consumers that I know of and if their solar monitors are gone, that doesn’t leave many options. Kevin happens to be very clued up as well with these things, so he’d know if there was anything else that he could recommend.
Depending on your solar setup, there might be other options though. Could you tell us what system you’ve got as I might be able to call in some help from a few other members.
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Can you supply a link to the new IHD which can show import export live on a dial so I can see what this looks like and what it takes to capture solar data. I’m not so much interested in billing level accuracy rather to decide at a moment in time if there is enough solar to switch on both the washing machine and dishwasher without importing too much from grid.
If that is your goal, why don’t you just look at the export? My IHD shows export just as it would show import (and in fact the two are virtually indistinguishable, only separated by a few tiny pixel). One potential problem is that both the washing machine and the dishwasher will have vastly different power requirements as they go through their cycle. Heating does use a lot of power for both, but it is only active intermittently.
Be really interested to hear how the export reading can be viewed if so. We were under the impression that our IHDs weren’t able to show this info so happy to update this topic if we’re incorrect.
As for other ways to view export data, @12like, I know we’ve got plenty of solar-panel users here who might be able to direct you to some great third-party apps they use - @Jequinlan, @ArundaleP, @f0rtune?
Hi, this is an interesting and important topic. If all you want to know is how much you are exporting at that moment (a dial / live reading) then the IHD should show a negative reading for consumption. The problem is there are several types of meter (Smets 1 or Smets 2) and the different data they transmit. As far as I know, both will allow a live reading (which shows energy flow at the meter at that moment) but only Smets 2 has the ability to show export meters (ie a separate meter in kWh for how much you exported). I don’t use the OVO supplied IHD but use a product called the Glow Stick by Hildebrand which has a great app with lots of data (including live electricity flow through the meter). The app looks like this
You can clearly see my current export is 2700W.
You can purchase the Glow Stick from their website but make sure you purchase the correct one depending on your smart meter type (Smets 1 or Smets 2).
As noted by @ArundaleP some meters give us the full import/export value, some zero out export. In that the latter case, we will stay with the normal dial as there is no export as far as we are concerned.
@Blastoise186 is right, we do not sell SMETS IHD directly today.
Hi, this is an interesting and important topic. If all you want to know is how much you are exporting at that moment (a dial / live reading) then the IHD should show a negative reading for consumption. The problem is there are several types of meter (Smets 1 or Smets 2) and the different data they transmit. As far as I know, both will allow a live reading (which shows energy flow at the meter at that moment) but only Smets 2 has the ability to show export meters (ie a separate meter in kWh for how much you exported). I don’t use the OVO supplied IHD but use a product called the Glow Stick by Hildebrand which has a great app with lots of data (including live electricity flow through the meter). The app looks like this
You can clearly see my current export is 2700W.
You can purchase the Glow Stick from their website but make sure you purchase the correct one depending on your smart meter type (Smets 1 or Smets 2).
Thanks Paul. My export meter isn’t Smart and I don’t think I can have it changed as I’m on a FiT contract. Can it still be connected to Glow Stick using a cable clamp?