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I am not very sure how to achieve this Power Move Flex. I just got my first Power Move Flex Task and it's to reduce usage during 6 pm to 8 pm. 

I am not sure how to achieve this. My usage during this period is 0.09 to 0.18 kWh. That's from my refrigerator, and may be some bulbs. There is nothing more to reduce here. 

 

 

 

And how exactly does this work? Am I supposed to reduce my usage from previous day or average of previous week? Or should I reduce it based on usage of the whole day? 

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I see, thanks for the feedback! I’ll make sure this gets sent to the right people via the Forum Moderators.

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@sankarram90 I’d say try turning some of those bulbs off, just as a test for now. There will be more tasks soon, so don’t lose heart.


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Blastoise186 wrote:

@superted_76 while it’s OK to have a rant in your own thread, please don’t threadjack other people’s threads to do so. It’ll have to be cleaned up and just generates unwanted noise for Forum Volunteers. Additionally, this thread is actually related to Power Move Flex which you are NOT involved with. It’s preferable that you don’t take part in discussions related to trials you’re not on, but that’s just my personal view.

@sankarram90 I’d say try turning some of those bulbs off, just as a test for now. There will be more tasks soon, so don’t lose heart.

 

 

That's one Bulb that consumes 7W. I am not contributing anything to this challenge by switching that off. 

Some of these doesn't make any sense. 


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Emmanuelle_OVO
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Hey @sankarram90,

 

The following information may be helpful:

 

How does Power Move Flex work?

 

At peak times of the day, like around 7pm, there are high levels of demand on the energy grid. By nature, renewable energy sources like wind and solar power can be unpredictable. So this demand on the grid doesn’t always match how much renewable power is being generated. And when there’s not enough to go around, dirtier, carbon-heavy fossil fuel gets used to fill the gap.

Power Move Flex helps match the demand to the power being generated. So your home uses cleaner, greener energy. The aim is to shift your electricity activities into certain time slots – not to use more than normal. Here’s how it works:

 

 

Get ready

 

You get an email letting you know what date and time to shift your electricity use. You'll be asked to either Power Up or Power Down.

 

Power Up

 

Demand is low so shift your electricity use into the time slot we set. Dry your hair, charge your laptop, and run the dishwasher – make the most of it.

 

 

Power Down

 

Demand is high so shift your heavy electricity use outside the time slot we set. Hold off on that washing pile and saving the ironing for later.

 

 

Get rewarded

 

Power Up to earn credit for every kWh of electricity you shift above your normal use. Power Down to earn credit for every kWh you lower your normal energy use by.

 

 

Congratulations

 

You’ve helped make the UK a little greener! By shifting electricity demand together, we can welcome even more clean energy into our homes.

 

How do the credit rewards work?

 

Power Down

For Power Down events, you're rewarded based on how much electricity you’d normally use. For example, if you normally use 0.6kWh of electricity between 5pm & 6pm, and during a Power Move Flex event you only use 0.4kWh, we’ll reward you for the 0.2 kWh you didn’t use. With a reward value of £1.25/kWh for example, you’d get £0.25.

 

Power Up

For Power Up events, you'll be rewarded for any kWhs of electricity you shift into the event times above 0 kWh. For example, let’s say you take part in a Power Up event between 10am & 11am, and you use 1.5 kWh of electricity – we’ll reward you for the 1.5 kWh you’ve used. And if the reward value is set at £0.29/kWh for example, that means you’d earn £0.44 – just for shifting your energy use to a time when there’s less demand for it.


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That didn't help at all. 

I had a very specific question and you have just copy pasted some information from the website. 


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sankarram90 wrote:

Am I supposed to reduce my usage from previous day or average of previous week? Or should I reduce it based on usage of the whole day? 

 

The team running this challenge haven’t yet revealed what they compare to. Previous challenges like this have taken figures like the average usage in the target period over the previous five or ten days, although it’s not clear whether this includes weekends. So, unless your usage pattern has changed significantly, an average for the previous ten days should give a good idea of the benchmark to work from. 

To find this average, add up the four half-hourly figures for 18:00, 18:30, 19:00 and 19:30 for all of the ten previous days. Divide the result by ten to find your benchmark. 

Incidentally, the chart you shared shows significantly higher-than-average usage between 18:00 and 18:30. That’s the sort of blip you’re trying to avoid in order to beat the benchmark. 

You can also deduce from the chart that there’s a lot more than just the fridge and a 7W bulb running. Look at the hours of lowest consumption; in your case, that looks to be between 06:00 and noon, so perhaps you got up late that Sunday morning. That will be the consumption pattern for when everything is switched off except the fridge and a few ‘always on’ items that don’t really matter. Work out what it is that’s consuming between 18:00 and 20:00 - it could be the television, a computer, or anything else that is plugged in and has been switched on. The single lightbulb will only add .0035kWh to each half-hour, but you have some things using many times that.

 


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Hey @sankarram90,

 

Blastoise made a good point, there will be more challenges to come that will be on different days and at different times, and it's all to help us understand the levels of flexibility across the board and how we can position flexibility events in the future. I’ve provided your feedback to the team, & if you report back throughout the trial & you experience is that you had limited chance to turn up or down based on their baseline consumption, it's a good learn for OVO, to improve for next time. 

 

For Power Down events, we calculate your baseline using ESO’s methodology: For working days (Mon - Fri excluding bank holidays) – your baseline is calculated using the half hourly electricity usage data taken from your smart meter over the last 10 working days before an event. Days where there’s been a Power Move or Power Move Plus event won’t count towards the target. You must have at least 5 working days worth of data for a target to be calculated.


For non-working days (Saturday, Sunday & bank holidays) – your baseline is calculated using the half hourly electricity usage data taken from your smart meter over the last 4 non-working days. Days where there’s been a Power Move or Power Move Plus won’t count towards the target. You must have at least 4 non-working days worth of data for a target to be calculated. For Power Up events, there will be a zero baseline on consumption.


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Emmanuelle_OVO wrote:

 

For Power Down events, we calculate your baseline using ESO’s methodology: For working days (Mon - Fri excluding bank holidays) – your baseline is calculated using the half hourly electricity usage data taken from your smart meter over the last 10 working days before an event. Days where there’s been a Power Move or Power Move Plus event won’t count towards the target. You must have at least 5 working days worth of data for a target to be calculated.


For non-working days (Saturday, Sunday & bank holidays) – your baseline is calculated using the half hourly electricity usage data taken from your smart meter over the last 4 non-working days. Days where there’s been a Power Move or Power Move Plus won’t count towards the target. You must have at least 4 non-working days worth of data for a target to be calculated. For Power Up events, there will be a zero baseline on consumption.

@Emmanuelle_OVO  Is there something wrong there, or am I misunderstanding that wording?

Power Move runs every working day.
So as written there it appears to be saying that if you are signed up and taking part in Power Move then working days will never be included in the ‘baseline’ or towards the ‘Flex’ target, so you won’t ever have a ‘Flex’ target for working days?

Meaning that those already on Power Move can only ever qualify for ‘Flex’ events at weekends and BH’s?

 


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I’ll get some clarity from the team & report back @Nukecad 🙂


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Hey @Nukecad,

 

Thank you for bringing this to our attention, we have amended the terms, but in practice we have been counting all the days so this hasn’t affected your credit. We've raised for this to be removed so it should be corrected within the next 24-48 hours.

 

Just to re-iterate, it won't affect how you've been calculated for the first events. 😊


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Great!! 

I am not doing that again. 

 

I basically switched off the breakers for most of my house. Basically one 7W Bulb running and £0 credit. 

I am done with Power Move Flex.


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Hey @sankarram90,

 

Sorry to hear this,

 

Do you have your half hourly data usage? If you have a copy of the times & dates where you were asked to shift your electricity activities into certain time slots & did so accordingly then it might be worth flagging to the team. 

 

How do the credit rewards work?

 

Power Down

For Power Down events, you're rewarded based on how much electricity you’d normally use. For example, if you normally use 0.6kWh of electricity between 5pm & 6pm, and during a Power Move Flex event you only use 0.4kWh, we’ll reward you for the 0.2 kWh you didn’t use. With a reward value of £1.25/kWh for example, you’d get £0.25.

Power Up

For Power Up events, you'll be rewarded for any kWhs of electricity you shift into the event times above 0 kWh. For example, let’s say you take part in a Power Up event between 10am & 11am, and you use 1.5 kWh of electricity – we’ll reward you for the 1.5 kWh you’ve used. And if the reward value is set at £0.29/kWh for example, that means you’d earn £0.44 – just for shifting your energy use to a time when there’s less demand for it.

 

sankarram90 wrote:

 

I basically switched off the breakers for most of my house. Basically one 7W Bulb running and £0 credit. 

I am done with Power Move Flex.

 

The idea is to shift usage, were you switching your breakers off for the periods set out by the challenge? 


The Power Up events would appear to be much simpler than Power Down as the baseline is zero. And yet, as I posted elsewhere, when I used nearly 9kwh in 1 power up slot where I typically have negligible use, the end of week report only registered that period as 0.18kwh.

My smart display had good signal to the meter at all times. Not sure where the disconnect is (someone suggested it was me being silly for moving off peak usage into power up but I don't think that's it... otherwise what's the incentive) 


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