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Why, when I faithfully provide meter readings on time, each month, does OVO still give estimated readings on my bills?

Why, when I faithfully provide meter readings on time, each month, does OVO still give estimated readings on my bills?

This question was asked 6 years ago, but I’ve had exactly this same problem as of March/April 2023. Also change of System, in April 21st 2023 £2000 debit from £350 credit. How does that work?

 

We’re already answering this in your own thread. Please check there.

 


I am new to OVO and from my short time with them I am convinced they are the worst energy supplier in Britain

3 months ago they told me that due to my electricity usage IO would be in deficit for over £16000 pounds

They have done me a favour and reduced the estimate to only £4500 meaning that they want the DD to go  from 206 to 597 a month

I live in a modest 3 bed house and despite sending them monthly readings they refuse to listen to me and have told me lies that the amount will not increase and the estimate submitted was in error

Has anyone had this problem?


The figures you’re seeing look truly alarming.

The estimates used to calculate your Direct Debit are based on the numbers in your plan. If you post a screenshot of your Plan page, we may be able to see why they are so inflated. 

One of the figures on that page is the Future Annual Consumption (FAC). Since you have been submitting regular monthly meter readings, you should be able to work out how much electricity you used in the past year - just subtract the reading for July 2022 from the one for July 2023 to get a good idea. Is this very different from the FAC?

Another factor in the DD calculation is the state of your account. You can see today’s balance on the Home page; if it’s negative, the DD will be increased to pay off the deficit over the period. 

Meanwhile, have a look at Getting to grips with the Direct Debit Calculator on your online account or OVO app | The OVO Forum to see how your DD is worked out.  You’ll also find a lot of information about your usage on the other pages of your online account.


since February total electric consumption is 825kw

account balance today is +£351 !

I have tried to relay these facts to their rep via chat but the message does not register

 


Those figures don’t help to explain why your predicted costs and Direct Debit are so high. We have to see your plan details, along with your energy consumption for the past year.

 


Hey @billgemmell,

 

Sorry for the issues you’re having, 

 

As you have switched to OVO recently the large estimated bill may have been due to a read dispute, this is when an initial reading is used that is an estimate which is not in line with the other ‘actual readings’ from a meter. 

 

This can be raised by OVO, or the previous supplier you have switched from. Once this is raised we can place you on a billing suspension, and a direct debit review suspension meaning your direct debit isn't increased. 

 

 

If it was an out of line estimate mid billing cycle. Then every read submitting subsequently will alter the estimated annual consumption and predicted direct debit. There is a live billing system so when you submit a meter reading your account balance will change accordingly. I’d strongly suggest getting a smart meter installed so your readings are sent across automatically. 

 

 

Hope this helps. 


I have raised the issue with OVO on two occasions and despite assurances that there is an error in the estimated use and a further assurance that the DD would not increase, OVO increased the DD yesterday.

The actual readings that I submit to OVO appear to be ignored as these readings would confirm that I will never use the energy that has been estimated by OVO.


Hey @billgemmell,

 

That sounds very frustrating, I’m sorry to hear this. 

 

Please contact the Support Team who will be able to submit an actual reading on your behalf. It may then be flagged and go to the billing team to be authorized and added to the account. You can contact them via web chat. 

 

Customer Support will also be able to put your account on a direct debit review suspension for 3 months until this is resolved. 

 

Hope this helps. 


I have raised the issue with OVO on two occasions and despite assurances that there is an error in the estimated use and a further assurance that the DD would not increase, OVO increased the DD yesterday.

The actual readings that I submit to OVO appear to be ignored as these readings would confirm that I will never use the energy that has been estimated by OVO.

Have you put in a complaint over the last 3  months?

https://www.ovoenergy.com/feedback


I am new to OVO and from my short time with them I am convinced they are the worst energy supplier in Britain

3 months ago they told me that due to my electricity usage IO would be in deficit for over £16000 pounds

They have done me a favour and reduced the estimate to only £4500 meaning that they want the DD to go  from 206 to 597 a month

I live in a modest 3 bed house and despite sending them monthly readings they refuse to listen to me and have told me lies that the amount will not increase and the estimate submitted was in error

Has anyone had this problem?

Hi yes my bill seems to be never ending , a new price everyday. I have waited over 6 weeks now for 4 outstanding email replies and nothing! I'm changing supplier it's a joke


Hey @chubsterpug,

 

I’ll respond to you on your other thread:

 

 


According to Ovo Q&A you should send your meter readings on the last day of your current billing period it then takes 2 days to generate the actual bill for that period. With my last energy company on a 12 week billing period you would get your bill by email. You could then send in your meter readings then and you would get your new bill sent instantaneously to your email 

why does it take Ovo 2 days to generate your bills after submitting your readings on the last day of your current rather than instantaneous as with my previous energy company 


Not sure of your previous supplier @Pilgrim2 but besides double checking, gas costs have to be calculated after readings are taken to take account of the caloric value. These figures aren’t published by the gas transporter until after each days supply. 
That’s probably a key reason


In my case O am an electricity customer only no gas involved so you would expect your bill automatically as I did with SSE Hydro 


OVO do have what they call ‘live billing’ so you can see your usage and costs immediately online 

https://account.ovoenergy.com/billing-history

 


I sent in an up to date reading a week ago (21/09), and my account has still not been updated. We have had solar panels fitted and so the bill should be a lot less that the amount on the bill. Why is it taking so long to update?


Hi @serennu and thanks for asking this. Nice work getting solar panels fitted - you’ve just earned a badge on your forum profile for that!

 

I’m surprised to hear your OVO online account hasn’t been updated yet following that reading. It would usually take a matter of minutes to show, not days. 

 

Please check here to see if the reading is showing: https://account.ovoenergy.com/meter-readings

 

If it’s not, can you try and submit another reading and look out for any error messages you get when you submit them?

 

If the reading is showing, it should be factored in to your current billing period’s charges, shown here:

 

https://account.ovoenergy.com/billing-history


I sent in an up to date reading a week ago (21/09), and my account has still not been updated. We have had solar panels fitted and so the bill should be a lot less that the amount on the bill. Why is it taking so long to update?

Hi @serennu out of curiosity, I assume this means you haven’t got a smart meter for whatever reason? 


No I don’t have a smart meter

 


Hi @serennu and thanks for asking this. Nice work getting solar panels fitted - you’ve just earned a badge on your forum profile for that!

 

I’m surprised to hear your OVO online account hasn’t been updated yet following that reading. It would usually take a matter of minutes to show, not days. 

 

Please check here to see if the reading is showing: https://account.ovoenergy.com/meter-readings

 

If it’s not, can you try and submit another reading and look out for any error messages you get when you submit them?

 

If the reading is showing, it should be factored in to your current billing period’s charges, shown here:

 

https://account.ovoenergy.com/billing-history

Thank you, will try sending in another reading

 

 

 


Hey @serennu,

 

Any update on this? 

 

If the reading still hasn’t been updated I’d advise contacting the support team, there may be an error on your account. 


Thanks to you all for your help, I had to phone OVO as my account still hadn’t updated, nice surprise I owed £200 less than the amount billed. 


This morning my monthly bill for Import was online, I viewed this and was dissaponted to note it was again an estimated bill.

THIS IS NOT A COMPLAINT, but can OVO please take a look at their billing computer parameters as there appears to be an issue.

Please treat this as positive feedback!

Background information.

Having noted the above estimated bill I went online to correct the readings to get my account to reflect the true figure, However when I enterred the actual figure for the bill end date of the 22nd of the month, it again posted an estimated figure on the account.

Thinking I had perhaps confused the software by entering the figure for the 22nd and the actual bill was showing end date as 21st I enterred figure for 21st. Again this resulted in an estimated figure on the account.

In both cases the figure estimated was below the actual readings so the account is shown in debt. This causes offence as

1. I always pay what I owe on time.

2. I will not pay an estimated bill ever, with any company, as this always leads to accounting problems. so I settle in Full! (I know others who do the same)

I am a perhaps fairly high winter user of elctricity but a net exporter for perhaps 2/3rds of the year due to substantial number of Solar panels. I suspect the problem with the software is it does not like what it considers extreme usage to be enterred so places an estimate.

I know theForum cannot access individual accounts and I am not looking for it to do so, However the OVO Forum Managers can flag issues to OVO’s departments, so as there doesn’t seeem to be any other way to get a message across I am asking for this action.

I cannot be alone in seeing this issue is any other customer on the Forum having a problem with consistently estimated bills and if so How do they deal with it?     


Hi @Colin Wheeler 

If your billing period ends on 22nd and you don't have a SMETS smart meter then enter a reading for 23rd. I know you don't or didn't at least have a SMETS smart meter.

This will mimic what a SMETS smart meter does where the usage on the 22nd is given to OVO via the SMETS smart meter network on the morning of the 23rd.

Going back to the 21st is the wrong direction.

This has worked for everyone who has raised the feature in the past on the forum as far as I am aware.

I don't think it is anything to do with your setup. You are not alone in reporting the feature, it is a fairly  common question that ovo are well aware of. Access to your account isn't needed.

See if that helps.

I can search and find some examples for you if you like, else have a search yourself and see if you can find any.

 

 

Did you get anywhere enquiring about ovo or in fact any supplier reading your AMR meter on a domestic tariff or alternative options for your setup? Hopefully one day you will have a setup that doesn't require manual readings on a regular basis.

Hope you get your bill sorted, good luck!

Feel free to post any follow up queries, one of the regular posters can often help with quite a few questions.

If you want to "get your message across" without raising a complaint then this is worth a try. This isn’t a complaint email address as I know you don't want to raise a complaint. It is just a feedback email.

"Or, if you’d just like to share feedback – good or bad – of a recent experience you’ve had with OVO, you can email Raman’s team. Please include your OVO account number, address, and a summary of your experience."

You can even include a link to this thread in any email to Raman if you like 

https://forum.ovoenergy.com/my-account-140/online-accounts-computer-parameters-17107


Jeffus has of course nailed this.

It may seem illogical, but this is a question of timings. In the absence of a smart meter reading, any manual reading will be treated as if it had been taken the preceding midnight, at the same time as that day’s smart reading would have been taken. Midnight belongs to neither the preceding day nor the following one, so it’s a matter of choice which date to apply to it. OVO chooses both, so the closing reading for one billing period becomes the opening one dated the following day for the next period. If there’s no reading for the first day of the current period, the bill for the preceding one will be based on an estimate for the missing reading. 

You know what to do next time, if you haven’t decided to ask for a smart meter.


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