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Can anyone explain what’s going on here?

Opening balance was £335, we used around £90 worth of electric/gas combined (£66 government payment was taken off this, hence the £22 charge), I paid £150 so by my reckoning the balance should have gone up by around £125.

It hasn’t though - they seem to have then deducted the £66 again.

Does anyone know why? Do I need to contact them or will it right itself?

Please help don’t understand why the £66 refund is deducted from my Direct Debit payment and not shown as a credit paid in by the government, please help confused pensioner.


Hi @curleythomas73 ,

It should show up with a credit under Charges in detail as Energy Bill Support Scheme -£66. If this hasn’t happened, https://help.ovoenergy.com will sort things out.


Yes @curleythomas73 you should look across your account shown here 

 


Please advise why does it show £66 leaving my account and doesn’t show the £66 coming into my account from the government: confused pensioner? 


Sorry for any confusion. I repeated what Blastoise had already explained, so I removed what I wrote.


You were not charged £66, you were credited £66 and that same £66 was sent back to your bank account shortly afterwards.




I thank you for taking time to help everybody but i think your wording is misleading

in the tax section the 66 is taken off the bill

you are then charged 66 pounds everyone can see that - its an out - like the dd

However it is then refunded….

But saying your not charged whne clearly you are isnt right.

I’m intrigued how you would classify any refund requested on your account ..? That would show as ‘out’ on your statement .. and refunded to your bank .. would you then say that you were charged the amount of the refund?

That would seem a strange definition 


 

You were not charged £66, you were credited £66 and that same £66 was sent back to your bank account shortly afterwards.

 

The figure for usage is “£222.19 out”, ie that’s what I’m being charged which is fair enough.

The next line says “Refunds £66 out”, ie another charge.

I have used £42 more than I paid by DD so my credit balance should drop by £42. Instead, it has dropped by £108 (£42 + £66) which proves that they’re billing me for the £66 “refund”.

They then sent a “refund” of £66 to my account the same day which I have, effectively, funded myself!!

Your explanation makes no sense.

 

Hey @Shambolic,

 

We don’t have access to your account here on the Forum. Support are best placed to deal with your query, they’ll have access to your bills and can tell you when the payment went in. 

 

Hope this helps. 


You don’t need access. All the detail is in the extract I’ve posted.

Ovo are billing me £66 to then pay it back to me and calling it a refund.

It is insane.

I will try calling when I have a couple of hours to spare but there’s simply no debate that the administration of this Government support should not have been left to the Marx Brothers at OVO.

Thanks anyway.


@Shambolic2 can you show the two areas on your bill where you are charged and refunded. Your previous posts shows only the refund with no entry for EBSS (it’s on where the VAT is). 


All the detail is in the extract I’ve posted.

Not quite. The refund to your bank won’t normally be triggered until after the EBSS rebate has been credited to your account. The balance you showed opens on 24 October, so it’s possible that the rebate was credited before that, helping to boost your positive balance. Could we see the Charges in detail for the previous period, the one ending on 23 October? This would show definitively whether the refund requested on 25 October was or was not funded by a rebate sometime in the period 1-23 October. If it wasn’t, you’ve been diddled and you have a genuine grievance.

 


It looks like that user got banned for rule violations. They probably won’t respond again.


Ever since OVO took over from SSE the electric bills have been totally incorrect every month, even though I send meter readings and have always paid by direct debit.

Firstly they said in July '22 that I still had £112 to pay from my SSE account prior to the move(which I didn't want or ask for!!),my DD's have ALWAYS been paid on time each quarter since 2014,so when I was told the change of supplier was happening at the end of June '22,I got my final bill plus the extra days which totalled £154.67 also my bill showed the £112+change was my quarterly plus extra to June 30th making £154.67 which I paid in full as I always do.

Ever since then,this £112 has been put on my OVO bill as debit? I've tried and tried sending emails then with NO RESPONSE WHATSOEVER I changed to going through the OVO online complaints form and I have sent the 3rd complaint form around a week ago after NEVER even getting a single response or not even an acknowledgment email.

Because I'm immobile disabled at home I am receiving the £66 monthly but they are sending the money to my bank account and then when looking at my bills every month now I'm not only still having the £112 showing as an unpaid debit but they are now deducting the £66 from my £75 monthly direct debit amount and then my usage costs are usually around £40-£50pm so with that they are making the debit larger every month!! It's unbelievable what's going on with my account and I've got enough medical issues and NHS nurses coming to my bungalow twice a day every day to tend my medical needs etc,so when a company that I didn't ask for has been ignoring every email and any of the 3 complaints form's over the month's since June it's unbelievably frustrating and stressful for me!

It's NOT MUCH TO ASK for some response to even acknowledge one of my emails over nearly 5 months now,maybe somebody who has more knowledge about having this looked at or should I use the form I've already got filled out on the Ombudsmen's website ready to go? I thought I'd try here first as a last resort, I don't like to use the phone as some of my skull and bruising to my brain which makes it difficult for concentration,short term memory loss and nervous due to it as it was a part of the numerous injuries after a car hit me 16yrs ago that left me immobile disabled at home, otherwise I would use the phone but it's not an option unfortunately.

Thanks for any help in advance and your time reading this issue.


Have a look at this which explains where the £66 comes into your account from the government:

Re Your other points about SSE will get a response too….soon !


Hey @Philip Cook,

 

Sorry for the Issues you’re having,

 

We don’t have access to your account here on the Forum.

 

I think the best thing to do would be to call Support on 0330 303 5063, they’ll be able to see your previous SSE billing, meter readings and the £112 charge.

 

If you’d like you can also attach a screenshot of your first bill from OVO and last bill from SSE to this thread and we can take a look? But please don’t include any personal information.

 

Hope this helps. 


I haven't received my £66 for November and its 1st December. I received it in October and I pay DD 16th of the month.


Hey @Sarareynolds,

 

Sorry to hear this,

 

You’ll need to contact Support who have a process in place for missing Energy Bills Support Scheme payments.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

 

 


Hello

I have contacted support (chat) and after 1 hour 20 minutes I was told that I can't do anything as its an automatic system that generates the refunds into bank accounts and the customer advisor couldn't help.  If I don't get my money today  then OVO have failed to give me my entitled 66 pounds for November. I am due December soon. Its not.good enough.


I've checked my bill and I did receive my £66 last month but they have also added to what I owe them, so how does that work as I thought we didn't have to pay it back


@Stubbs44 does this explanation help ? 
 

 


Hi there,

 

I’ve seen some threads about this but still believe there’s an issue,

 

here is I think a good example,

  • start balance -£1.53
  • usage £122, new balance = -£123.53
  • direct debit £195 = balance should be (-123+195) = £72

then there is the £66 one

  • I got it on my bank but here, my balance isn’t £72 but £4.63 (they removed £66 from it)
  • also, +£66 on bank - £66 here = 0

I didn’t use £188 of energy if some are wondering (122+66), so where is the £400 grant?

 

 


Same issue I think OVO is just playing dumb they know exactly what they’re doing, 

if you remove 66 from balance to give 66 by bank transfer then you just did 0, the grant is a discount not a self funded cash transfer from existing balance


If you look in ‘see details’ on your charges section and scroll down towards the bottom you should see that the £66 has been deducted from your charges, just below the vat section


@Nico can you look to see how the £122.84 charges are made up. Is there an entry for £66 there? If it is then that’s your £66 government grant coming into your account 


Explained on your other thread @Nico  your charges are REDUCED by the £66 


Thanks for your help but I've already done all the screenshots etc as I explained in my question even sending a 3rd complaint form since July but not even an acknowledgment of my emails etc.


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