Taking a manual meter reading from a Landis+Gyr E470 smart meter
Updated on 19/07/24 by Shads_OVO
How to read the many versions of an L + G electricity smart meter!
Landis + Gyr don’t make things easy when it comes to working out whether your smart meter is SMETS1 or SMETS2. Thankfully our community volunteer has already written a great guide to help you work that one out:
Need to take a reading from one of these meters to submit on your online account or OVO app (download for Android or iOS)? - We’ve got you covered!
Have 2 square buttons, one directly above the other, like this?:
If you’ve got a single rate meter, you may notice that you’re reading is already showing on the default meter screen.
Need to see it back-lit? Just tap the ‘A’ button to scroll through the display options until you see ‘R01’ the reading will be shown in the bottom right of the LCD screen.
If you’ve got a dual rate version of this meter press and hold down the ‘B’ button for roughly 5 - 10 seconds - then tap the ‘A’ button. This will toggle between the ‘R01’ reading and the ‘R02’ reading as demonstrated in this handy video:
If your square buttons are spaced out in diagonally opposite corners like this:
It may look slightly different but the process is the same:
Now for a bit more of a mystery and an appeal for some peer-peer knowledge sharing!
Got a SMETS 1 version of this meter with a black border around the screen, like this?:
We’d love to include this version in the guide but are struggling to work out the method for reading this one manually. Got this meter and managed to work it out? - Comment below and help others who might be at a loss!
Brownie points to whoever figures this one out first
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I have and above Smart Meter. I had solar panels installed and have been asked to check if I can check whether it supports export to the grid by pressing button A. However, there is only button B . Is there a button A on this Meter ?
Could you post a photo of it too for us?
Hey @SURI just checking in as you didn’t reply to us.
Did you still need our help by any chance?
Hi
Could anyone please tell me if my smart meter is a dual or single tariff?
I attach photos of all three screens I can see on my meter. There is absolutely NOTHING at all on the smart meter that matches what Ovo say I am using off peak. I do NOT have storage heaters.
Beyond my meter reading, I have no idea what any of it means - especially the credit balance … don’t use top up cards.
Any help gratedully received!
Thanks in advance.
Hi @Cheekyone its difficult to tell from the images but you can check your plan to see if you’re on a dual rate tariff. https://account.ovoenergy.com/plan
This includes looking at a second tariff if it’s used
Tahnk you so much. It does appear that I have a dul rate meter after all (almost a year down the line).
Why do I need/get dual readings when I do not have Economy 7?
I reall, really wish I had never had smart meters installed. hate them witht a vengance.
Thanks very much for your help. Much appreciated.
You should be able to ask to go on to a single rate if you don’t have appliances to use much overnight. They would just use both meter registers as the same rate. You’d need to get in touch with customer support if that’s better for you - although I don’t understand why you would have dual rate /economy 7 if you didn’t ask for it
Nothing but trouble since smart metwr fitted last April. haven’t had bills with meter readings for electric since then. Been in with ceo twice - still not resolved. Can’t wait to get away from Ovo.
Thanks for your time.
I have the Landis and Gyr Smets 1 meter and it’s quite easy to work out and determine costs. The meter default screen shows the latest reading - total KW. Pressing button A lights up the display and cycles through various levels of information but all you need is the total KW - and in my case the Rate 1 KW which is the daytime rate - and the Rate 2 KW which is the midnight to 5 am EV Tariff rate. You’ll know your contracted rates daytime and off peak plus daily standing charge so it’s very easy to keep tabs on whether things are working properly and what the costs are. I have an in house display which is supposed to mirror the smart meter which it does some of the time but not all of the time. It occasionally looks as if the EV Tariff has disappeared which got me worried at first. That’s why I learnt how to read the E470 and just take weekly readings to keep a check on our costs.
Please see below link to guide on how to reading L&G E470
It’s kind of you to share a link you found useful. I’d just point out that there are many different varieties of the L+G E470 meter, so the chances of any particular customer having exactly the model used in the video are quite slim.
Can someone help me find my meter numbers for a landis & Gyr Generation meter please
Hi @mams , is this for FIT/SEG?
Do you know where your generation meter is? Can you post a photo?
Hey @mams,
Did you manage to find your meter numbers? If not as @BPLightlog has pointed out if you can post a photo of your meter then we can give you a hand
Well isn't this a helpful thread? I wonder if you can help.
I've got a Landis Gyr E470 meter, photo attached I hope. I believe the meter reading to be displayed in the photo: 055809.
The trouble I'm having is that this is six digits, but my energy provider (E.ON) will only accept five on their website. I could skip the last one (05580), but it seems to me like that's going to omit important information. If I skip the first one (55809) the website tells me it seems unusually high and that I should check again.
Any thoughts? TIA!
Howdy @nixel ,
The correct reading on that photo was 055809 but you’d enter it as 55809 in some cases. It seems their system is expecting five digits but your meter can do six - so I’d suggest having a word with their customer service to submit it manually over the phone.
If that still fails, it’s a problem with their billing system and they’ll need to fix it.
Look closely: there’s a decimal point between 9 and 6:
Meter readings should be truncated (not rounded) to whole kWh, so the reading for submission here is as Blastoise says 055809. Since you can only submit five digits, you would drop the leading zero and enter 55809.
What do you see on your readings history page? The latest figure should be less than 55809, but how much less depends on how much you use and how old that latest reading is.
A screenshot of the page would help.
That link won’t work in this case, the user isn’t with OVO.
Oops
That's a pretty small decimal point, and it might have been more noticable if L&G had put it in the middle rather than at the bottom.
Bear in mind that this is the same Landis+Gyr who have a habit of constantly re-using model names/numbers even across S1 and S2, as well as doing other… Questionable… Decisions about their products. It does give me the feeling of what on earth were they doing when the built these things?
I’m mostly talking about the stuff that’s easy to verify here:
The buttons on the S2 variants are worse than 1970’s TV Remote Controls to press because they’re just ridiculously stiff (as myself, Tim, Luke and Bradley know!)
The supply status indicator may as well be Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics - because there’s no explanation half the time of what it means
The displays are - on average - much harder to read than most other vendors, there’s a reason why no-one else uses those calculator displays!
Oh… Wait a second…
I think that S1 Meter has failed to migrate to DCC, so might be eligible for swap to an S2 anyway. May be worth asking customer service about that. If migration totally fails after 12 months of trying, the meter is assumed dead and unrecoverable, so you get to have it swapped out for S2 for free if that happens.
Thanks folks. In the end I discovered I was able to submit the full six-digit reading (55809) to E.ON via their app, so problem solved.
It gave me the same warning about seeming unusually high and to double check it was the correct reading, but your answers here gave me confidence it is indeed correct so I powered through — thanks again.
@Firedog I had no previous readings to compare to, I've been billed off estimates so far. (I moved in April so really I should have got around to figuring all this out sooner, but ho hum.)
I had no previous readings to compare to, I've been billed off estimates so far. (I moved in April …
Oh dear. Surely you have a reading from when you moved in? The fact that E.On think the new reading is high might suggest that you have a shockingly high bill to come. You’re only responsible for usage from the day you moved in, so make sure they don’t try to bill you for anything consumed before then.
If you have the ovo app, at the bottom right click on help and then select meters andvin home display help and then select the meter you have and it tells you.
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