what is the current capped tariff for economy 7
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View originalwhat is the current capped tariff for economy 7
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View originalI’m afraid we can’t tell you that
Thanks I'll certainly do that as they've used the fact that I'm a new customer to up the price !!
Updated on 28/06/23 by Abby_OVO:
Ofgem’s energy price cap limits what you pay for gas or electricity. Here’s out how it works – and how it affects your prices.
What is the Energy Price Guarantee?
The Government’s Energy Price Guarantee (EPG) was introduced in October 2022 to help households with rising energy costs. It’s a discount on the unit rate of gas and electricity and is on top of the price cap. The EPG was previously set at £2,500 for a typical household bill. From 1 July 2023 this will change to £3,000, which is above the new price cap.
The Price Cap
Ofgem have announced that the new price cap will be £2,074 for a typical household from 1 July until 30 September 2023.
With the new price cap, customers on variable rate plans will pay a lower unit rate for their energy. Your actual bills will still depend on how much energy your home uses.
As the Energy Price Guarantee (EPG) level is higher than the new price cap, it won't have an impact on what you pay if you're on a variable rate plan, but it will remain in place to protect you from future price increases.
The price cap doesn't affect prices for fixed rate plans. Even though the EPG level has gone up to £3,000 from 1 July 2023, if you're on a fixed rate plan your prices won't change. That's because we're keeping your prices as they are for the length of your contract to protect you from this price increase.
Pay As You Go prices are variable – these will be set by the new price cap on 1 July 2023. This means your prices are going down.
Customers will receive an additional discount on their gas unit rate through the Energy Price Guarantee (EPG) so that most customers will pay less than Pay Monthly customers.
This discount will be reviewed every 3 months. You don't need to apply, and there is no need to contact us – the discount is applied automatically.
Electricity prices on Pay As You Go mean that most customers will already pay less than the equivalent for Pay Monthly.
You can also check out more information on the Price Cap set by Ofgem, here.
If you’re worried about your bills, we have lots of support available. See here for more information about OVO’s Customer Support Package.
I’m afraid we can’t tell you that . Your best bet is to contact the Support Team as they’ll be able to check the prices for your area.
Thanks I'll certainly do that as they've used the fact that I'm a new customer to up the price !!
Actually, the prices are the same for both new and existing members. The only difference is that you get an OVO Member Special option when you come to renew at the end of each contract.
Also, fixed rate deals are excluded from the price cap on the basis you know what you’re getting yourself into - the price cap is only for cases where you didn’t get to pick i.e. variable rate and prepayment tariffs.
This is not an answer to my question.
The support team show no concern or interest in helping to get correct tariff.
I have bee offered 3 different tariffs for the same simple energy variable scheme.
Hi
** update ** now updated as of 9th nov 2023
Thank you but it does not answer my question.
Why have OVO offered me 3 differnt tariffs in the last week all exceeding the OfGen Tariff cap of 34p per kWh and 45p per day.
Thank you but it does not answer my question.
Why have OVO offered me 3 differnt tariffs in the last week all exceeding the OfGen Tariff cap of 34p per kWh and 45p per day.
Hi
Given no one on this forum has access to your account we will have no way of answering that question.
You can sometimes check here to see what new customers would get charged for your property. Depending on your setup
https://www.ovoenergy.com/home-energy-plans
No one pays 34p per kWh and 45p per day. This is an average across all regions. Every region has a slightly different rate.
Are you an ovo customer? Are you an Economy 7 user?
This thread is from July - when Boris was still PM and before the EPG was devised !! Even the update of 28th August is out of date.
Good point, Julia! On the 7th I thought I found every single price cap related topic and updated the ‘best answer’. Somehow this one slipped the net. Updated now.
For example if you were on a fixed plan but moved to the variable, you can still go back to the fixed plan if there’s more than 6 weeks left. If you stayed on fixed but now want variable, you can do that as well. Lastly, we are offering new fixed plans so bear in mind those will be on show when browsing available fixed plans.
Hope this helps.
I have been advised that the OfGen price cap applies to gas and Electricity and is a cap noot and average for suppliers to pick and choose what tariffs the charge their customers.
That defined cap for Electricity is 34.0p per kWh and 45.0p per day. Of course suppliers can charge less and the customers annual usage my result in their annaul bill being higher that the reported average £2500
However OVO have advised me of tariffs that range between 32p and 35p per kWh and 45p and 53p per kWh with one agent even claiming VAT was extra. All were the same rate on the simple Variable Tariff. How can OVO offer different prices and discriminate between customers for an identical tariff? It is not justified.
Hence I am waiting for OVO to clarify their rates for the simple variable tariff and why I have been advised the new rate should I renew will be 33.7p per KWh and 52.7p per day +VAT, when the web site rate offers 33.72p per kWh and 49.14p per day incl VAT?
I have been advised that the OfGen price cap applies to gas and Electricity and is a cap noot and average for suppliers to pick and choose what tariffs the charge their customers.
That defined cap for Electricity is 34.0p per kWh and 45.0p per day. Of course suppliers can charge less and the customers annual usage my result in their annaul bill being higher that the reported average £2500
However OVO have advised me of tariffs that range between 32p and 35p per kWh and 45p and 53p per kWh with one agent even claiming VAT was extra. All were the same rate on the simple Variable Tariff. How can OVO offer different prices and discriminate between customers for an identical tariff? It is not justified.
Hence I am waiting for OVO to clarify their rates for the simple variable tariff and why I have been advised the new rate should I renew will be 33.7p per KWh and 52.7p per day +VAT, when the web site rate offers 33.72p per kWh and 49.14p per day incl VAT?
In case it helps
From the government website.
This is a cut and paste from the government website.
The average unit price for dual fuel customers on standard variable tariffs, subject to Ofgem’s price cap, paying by direct debit will be limited to 34.0p/kWh for electricity and 10.3p/kWh for gas, inclusive of VAT, from 1 October.
These are average unit prices, the unit rate itself varies by regions and the full list of rates have been passed to suppliers to ensure that they are used to calculate bills in Great Britain from 1 October. See the full list of regional rates.
Average standing charges for customers on default tariffs will remain capped in line with the levels set (in Great Britain) by Ofgem for the default tariff cap from 1 October, at 46p per day for electricity and 28p per day for gas, for a typical dual fuel customer paying by direct debit. Standing charges for households in Northern Ireland will also be unaffected.
Standing charges have always varied by region even before the Energy Price Guarantee.
Hi
I see you’ve been getting some excellent advice on here.
Just to reduce a bit of the guesswork, would you mind saying which region you are in? Also what method of payment were you being quoted for? The website will give tariffs based on payment by direct debit.
I believe region is midlands and the rate quoted was the only one that is available Simple energy variable.
Have not seen any advice yet that explains why I have been given a range of prices over the period of a week.
Are you planning to pay by direct debit/pay on demand/prepayment? They are different rates.
I believe region is midlands and the rate quoted was the only one that is available Simple energy variable.
Have not seen any advice yet that explains why I have been given a range of prices over the period of a week.
The electricity Energy Price Guarantee for the Midlands region is 33.73p/kWh and a 49.15p standing charge if paying by direct debit.
The Simpler Energy price if paying by direct debit is 33.72p/kWh and a 49.14p standing charge inclusive of VAT. You would get a different price if you wished to pay on receipt of bill or were a prepayment customer. This is one possible reason that you may have got a range of prices.
I can’t see that anyone has addressed the original question in this thread: What is the current price capped tariff for two rate economy 7? The marked answer makes no mention of Economy 7.
OVO are currently offering me an E7 tariff with these values:
Tariff Name | OVO Energy – Simpler Energy |
Tariff Type | Fixed for Variable |
Payment Method | Monthly Direct Debit |
Unit Rate | 38.64p per kWh |
Night Unit Rate | 18.86p per kWh |
Standing Charge | 45.85p per day |
Exit fees | £0 |
Assumed Annual Consumption | 2100 kWh |
This is in the East Midlands region (11), so rates in most other places are likely to be higher. The capped price here is 31.446p/kWh, so the rates shown equate to:
Day unit rate: 1.23 x price cap
Night unit rate: 0.60 x price cap
These figures seem to assume that peak usage is 1.75 x offpeak usage, meaning that E7 will be cheaper than single-rate so long as the daytime usage is less than ~64% of the total.
E&OE, of course.
My fixed tariff is due to end on 28th Feb 2023. I have had an email from Ovo saying:
“You don’t need to do anything. If you’re close to the end of your current plan, you'll automatically move to our variable Simpler Energy plan when this finishes.”
I can’t find on my Ovo how the fixed tariff and simpler energy plan differ. Am I able to renew my fixed tariff? Would I be better switching to the simpler energy plan? When will I know how much my gas and electricity will be increasing by? I am just a bit concerned because I now only have 8 weeks and I don’t really know what to do.
Sorry for sounding so thick, hopefully someone can shed some light for me x
Hi
You can of course look at others but most are the same pricing at present. I think the only difference would be if you want something extra like economy 7 or for an electric vehicle charging period
Hey
I’m one of the forum volunteers, so I can’t access your account. I see
Usually, the answer would be yes you can renew a fix deal. However, right now they’re not available at all from any supplier and the only option is to roll onto the variable rate tariffs. There’s not much difference between them, but the important things to know about the variable rate Simpler Energy plan are:
Thank you both so much for the advice, I certainly feel a lot calmer mentally about it now. I am worried however that the price I pay each month will be different from month to month. I am not particularly savvy when it comes to finances and like to pay everything by DD so I know things are paid and I know how much money I need to keep aside to cover my DDs. Will Ovo let me know the difference in prices from what I pay now to what I will pay on a variable rate? That sounds like a dumb question because I guess the answer is in the tariff title “Variable rate Simpler Energy plan”! I am just worried that I won’t know in advance what will be coming out of my bank x
If you’re paying OVO by Direct Debit, that will stay the same even on Simpler Energy and will remain as a Fixed Direct Debit just like it is now. The amount may have to go up, but you’ll get told that as well before any changes are made.
While the rates can change at anytime, they don’t go up that fast. You’ll get all the details in the next few weeks if memory serves.
It’s quite a time with prices isn’t it
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This is my first time using this forum. I came here feeling anxious with questions that in my head just sounded dumb.
Thank you
Thank you :) x
No worries. :)
We’ll be here if you need us again for anything, so feel free to stop by anytime and ask as many questions as you fancy!
I am on SVR and live in the N Wales and Mersey (formerly Manweb) region. Please can you tell me what my unit rates and standing charge rates will be for the rest of 2023?
If not known yet for the whole of the rest of the year, what do we know so far?
N.B. Plan offered on Ovo website shows:
Elec; 35.97 per KWh and 48.59 daily
Gas: 10.32 per KWh and 28.48 daily
Thanks,
Simon
Current rates are governed by the Energy Price Guarantee (EPG) and by the Energy Price Cap (EPC). The current EPG maximum rates apply until 31 March, so there will be no increase to default tariffs before then. The EPC for April-June will be announced in a couple of weeks’ time. So, to answer your question - nobody knows what the future beyond 31 March will bring, but the average GB household’s annual energy cost will be kept below £3000 by the EPG until April 2024. There has been speculation that prices might even fall a bit from April 2023 onwards.
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