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September 6, 2022
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Switching to a Economy 7 (two rate) plan - how can I arrange this with OVO?

  • September 6, 2022
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Hello,

 

Is it currently possible to switch to an economy 7 tariff with OVO? I’m struggling to find any recent information about this as it seems like everything has come to a standstill with the impending October energy price rise.

 

Thanks.

Best answer by Emmanuelle_OVO

Updated on 12/08/26 by Chris_OVO

Hey @Adamamin,

 

Welcome to the OVO Online Community!

 

We don't currently have the capability to change smart meters from Single Rate to Economy 7, or vice versa. If this capability ever becomes available we’ll update the Forum accordingly so that everyone’s aware.

 

If you have a single-rate meter, you probably won't benefit from an Economy 7 tariff. This tariff offers a cheaper rate for off-peak hours but has a higher rate during peak hours. It is meant for users who use a lot of energy at night, especially those with storage heaters or immersion heaters that run overnight. If you don’t have these types of heaters and mostly use energy during the day, Economy 7 is likely not a good option for you.

 

If a customer has an Economy 7 meter and is not using enough energy during off peak hours, we can switch them to a single rate plan. This is common when customers have removed their storage heaters.

 

You can find out more about Economy 7 here:

 

 

82 replies

Newcomer
November 1, 2022

Yes but they can't take on the meter because OVO have not registered the meter correctly on the ECOES. I am now waiting for OVO to update so I can go to another supplier

Rank 5
August 24, 2023

At the end of my last fixed term contract in January OVO said they could no longer supply a dual rate plan. I was also led to understand that their current smart meter did not do E7 (E10 is a complete no-no apparently). After countless contacts and escalation into the hands of a senior complaints handler it has now been agreed that an SMETS2 5 pole meter will supply E7 rates to my heating circuit. Given there are 5 connection points I am slightly puzzled as to how the installer will do this. My understanding is that there will be 1 live and 1 neutral in and 1 neutral and 2 live out (one of which will be timed through the 5th port). This leaves the neutral for the heating circuit with no home as the supplies as they currently exist are completely separate. See attached image:

current dual meter set up with hypothetcal connections for smart meter indicated

 

Firedog
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Super User
August 24, 2023

OVO seem to have been installing mostly Aclara meters recently, with their model SGM 1416-B being used for dual-rate arrangements. You may be able to make sense of the diagram on p. 8 of the tech manual for this type of meter, which explains how five tails supply two separate circuits.  

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
Rank 5
August 24, 2023

Thanks, had a look but not being an electrian I’m still unsure how one neutral out supplies two physically separate circuits. Two live outs, one of which is timed for the heating circuit is clear but I can’t see how the heating circuit gets its neutral to complete it’s circuit. 

Firedog
Super User
Super User
August 24, 2023

I’m sure @BPLightlog can explain ...

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
BPLightlog
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Super User
August 24, 2023

I’m sure @BPLightlog can explain ...

😁

The neutral is a common conductor so is used for both circuits. The separate live conductors effectively become live at different times providing the switch between both. 
Neutral being low (near zero) voltage doesn’t need to be switched

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Firedog
Super User
Super User
August 24, 2023

The separate live conductors effectively become live at different times …
 

Thanks for pitching in 🙇‍♂️
I would think in this sort of scenario that the ‘main’ circuit was always live, with only the off-peak one being switched on and off at the appropriate times. 

Noel | I have no official status; I'm just a volunteer who comes here to help other customers. My gear: Aclara SGM 1416-B Electricity-only E7 meter; Chameleon IHD3-PPMID-AAA | It may look as if I know what I’m talking about, but don’t let that fool you. |
BPLightlog
Super User
Super User
August 24, 2023

The separate live conductors effectively become live at different times …
 

Thanks for pitching in 🙇‍♂️
I would think in this sort of scenario that the ‘main’ circuit was always live, with only the off-peak one being switched on and off at the appropriate times. 

Yes, the additional switched off-peak circuit feeds the needs of the storage heaters/hot water or whatever as appropriate 

 

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Rank 5
August 26, 2023

I’m sure @BPLightlog can explain ...

😁

The neutral is a common conductor so is used for both circuits. The separate live conductors effectively become live at different times providing the switch between both. 
Neutral being low (near zero) voltage doesn’t need to be switched

Thanks, what I’m struggling with is that it appears to me that the heater circuit (with its own fusebox) and the main circuit for the rest of the flat are physically separate so I can’t see any way they can share a neutral. I’m fully prepared to believe I may be being a bit thick and hopefully the soon to arrive installers will explain all! I have attached a photo.

 

BPLightlog
Super User
Super User
August 26, 2023

The main input into the building would bring the common neutral in and that connection, wherever it is picked up will provide the ‘return’ connection for the live circuit. 
Will wait to see the result 

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