Turnip,

Why look a gift horse in the mouth? Do you really want to pay 29.5p for charging your car.

It is a concession made towards us electric car owners efforts to go green. be grateful not critical.

So whilst you drive we must freeze?

Do you actually know how much it costs to charge an EV compared to running a heater? I do.

A LOT more. Hence the discount to make it more balanced.

I only have econ 7 heati g and pay now, just reduced to 23 per unit so your argument does not work as it is per unit used not who uses less

Hmm, Horses for courses, We use sun shine to heat our home and air. We, in theory, are an all electric house, with very little bought from the grid. 

I can even charge my car for nothing, the OVO charge anytime only uses electricity at times when demand is low and I only use it when there is nothing left in my batteries.

Here’s the thing though. You don’t have to use expensive storage heaters as other options exist. EV Charging is not something that has that luxury - if you have to recharge, you have to recharge at the nearest charging station.

EV Charging on average also requires more juice than a heating system and needs to be capable of doing so at a faster rate i.e. more amps thus can use more units in the same time period.

Tell that to my landlords,   off peak is lowest i can get and come 7 at night no heat at all as being in the house and opening a door loses all the heat!

Nik according to what i see it can be used at any time where as i cant

Every bodies situation is different, you do not have to use charge anytime, you can charge on your off peak, I really do not know what you beef is.

Blastoise And this is about charging at home not away

You onviously are not reading what i am saying

As normal this forum is manned by ovo employees and not independant at all!

Actually, there’s an agreement in place that OVO Staff won’t use the forum at all unless they either help to run it (such as Tim) or have permission.

Those that post here are either independent forum volunteers like myself or visitors who come by of their own choosing.

It can be used at anytime, but it does not charge at all times as it only charges when there is low demand on the grid. But it overrules itself if it looks as if your car will not be ready when you wish for it.

It is a way of using surplus energy which as the way things stand only goes to waste,

You can choose to charge your vehicle on economy 7 or what ever it is called these days during you 7 hours of cheaper electricity.

What is not to like!

Nick but you pay 10 per kw where i pay 23p

Well Turnip, as a Suffolk Swede I do find you arguments a little futile and odd as you already have one cheap rate of power, why not add a charger and benefit from 10p per kWh.

Cannot think of anymore to say so this is my last post on this theme.

Thank you OVO for charge anytime.

It is an interesting topic. 

We are definitely in a transition phase. For example something will have to be done to replace the governments lost income from the revenue raised on fossil fuel vehicles. It is not sustainable long term that EV owners can charge their vehicle and not pay towards the upkeep of roads etc. There will be a tipping point. Be interesting to see what happens and how the government chargers EV owners for using roads, one recent proposal is 6p plus vat per mile. 

On the subject of the anytime tarrif it works well as ovo can choose the cheaper times to charge the vehicle. I suspect they might find this more difficult in winter. Whether a fixed price for Anytime is sustainable longer term will be interesting to watch. The number of people on these sort of tariff will be relatively small so the risk to ovo is small. What happens when millions of people are on the anytime tariff will be interesting to see. 

Good idea nick can i do this? 

Jeffus wt least you have understood what i am saying

There has been work around Smart charging storage heaters. For example

https://theenergyst.com/play-flex-markets-from-social-housings-storage-heaters-ofgem-approves-aggregators-to-try/

https://theenergyst.com/ovo-aims-unlock-12gw-flex-domestic-storage-heaters/ 

I don't think the ovo work is ongoing. 

It won't be easy due to the dumb nature of the majority of storage heaters.

There are about 1.7m homes heated with storage heaters so not a small number, that is more than the number of EVs and heat pumps combined. I didn't realise that until I looked. But obviously that will change. 

For the majority of homes it, is envisagd heat pumps will be installed. 

It would help if the government mandated some smart features in any new storage heater, not a subject I known anything about. That might help encourage some new tariff. 

so you already get cheaper electric being on economy 7.  So the same question could be asked of you by non-economy 7 users.  why do you get cheaper electric to heat your home than I do?

E7 is a win-win solution for both generators and consumers of electricity. There is less demand for electricity at night, so generators are grateful for any move that shifts consumption out of peak time to the quiet hours. They discount the price as an incentive and charge a bit extra during the day, the same mechanism that makes rush-hour train tickets more expensive than those at other times. For the consumer with electric heating, it makes sense to buy and store cheaper energy during the night to be used during the day. It only pays, though, if the off-peak consumption is more than about a third of the total, because of the higher price they have to pay during the day. 

You do not understand what i am saying, if ìts 10p for a car using off peak why should it be so that its subsidising car users.

Because Charge Anytime "Off-Peak" != Economy 7 "Off-Peak".

Economy 7 has always had fixed hours. Charge Anytime is opportunistic and tries to take advantage of every possible cheap period to run.