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Why is my Solis solar inverter drawing energy from the grid?

  • July 5, 2022
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Hey everyone,

 

I need some help and advice.  My Solis Inverter still draws minimal energy from the grid even though my solar panels are generating enough energy for use and storage.  The problem is that this minimal amounts are costing me almost £1 a day, around £30 a month.

 

Is there anyone of fixing this issue? Solis says there is nothing that can be done at the moment but have raised a ticket that has not been allocated to anyone.  Would this be the same issue with all inverters?

 

Best answer by Jequinlan

Hi @Mbu1982 

 

Welcome and I hope below answers your question:

 

Yes the PV systems all draw (at times) an amount from the grid.

 

I have been monitoring mine for weeks and can confirm there are times there is :

 

A) a trickle from the grid, a cloud can drop PV suddenly and if charging a battery the grid may step up while the battery charge is adjusted

B) a trickle TO the grid, this happens most when PV panels suddenly gain more sun, or when battery is charged.

C) when the battery falls to 4% on my system the trickle to the grid is used to maintain the management of the PV system.

 

Pretty sure the net benefit of solar far exceeds this gain/loss scenario but it appears to be just the way it is.

52 replies

Tim_OVO
OVO Staff
OVO Forum Legend
August 24, 2022

Thanks for confirming, @davericho - I’d love to hear back from you post installation so we know how it went, any unexpected complications or pleasant surprises. Do you need to let the DNO know?

 

Thanks Mbu1982 really would appreciate your Solis update.

Clutching at straws but have tried disconnecting everything to see if you draw power you may have done this, forgive me if I missed you had.

 

 

This is also something I’m keen on hearing back on @Mbu1982...

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davericho
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Newcomer
August 25, 2022

My installer says my system does not require DNO approval @Tim_OVO certainly update you when installation done, also I am on the old FIT generation covered by Ofgem

NewB.......Always amazed with simple solutions
Newcomer
August 26, 2022

I have a new solar system, so this is my first few months of production. That being said, I did a lot of research before installing my system (I tried anyways, some of it doesn't make sense until you have a system installed), and I have a spreadsheet every month of exports from an emporia energy monitor (CT's on individual circuits and my mains) as well as an export from my inverter, and an export for every 15 minutes from my power company. All the data is within 2-3% accurate of each other for production/consumption.

davericho
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Newcomer
August 26, 2022

@charjes9 nice to hear sounds like you have a good system, was your system installed by a local company? how many panels do you have, and be interested to know what inverter, and do you have a battery installed.

Bet your looking forward to a good summer like this year 🙂 

NewB.......Always amazed with simple solutions
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August 28, 2022

My Luxpowertek inverter also imports power from the grid every day. The average over the 3 months since it was installed is 0.26 KWh a day.

My neighbour, who has had solar pv with batteries for many years, warned me that the system would import from the grid when there was a sudden demand for power from the house while the batteries got up to speed ie because the batteries are slower to react than the equipment using the power.

Yesterday the system imported 0.2 KW hours in total, mostly when there was a spike in demand which exceeded the solar power being generated at that moment.  The demand was from the electric hob.

The system also imports small amounts from the grid for no reason that I can see, usually when the batteries are charging. Yesterday,  for example, it imported 109 watts when the data showed the system was generating 1796 watts, the batteries were 91% full,  the load was 177 watts and the charge going to the battery was 1691 watts. The load remained steady before and after. The readings for the power generated and the charge to the batteries, when it imported the 109 watts from the grid, were more than the equivalent readings before and after.

Is it something we have to live with, or can the inverter and battery technology solve the problem or does our domestic electrical equipment need rethinking to work in synch with solar PV systems?

So far (fingers crossed) the savings from my system far outweigh the cost of the imports.

davericho
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Newcomer
August 29, 2022

Thanks @maryjay appreciate this I haven't had mine installed yet but will bear in mind what you have noticed on your system if it happens to me.

NewB.......Always amazed with simple solutions
Newcomer
November 3, 2022

Hi @Jequinlan. New Solis system installed on Friday. I wonder if you would know why my system is exporting to the grid when the batteries are not full? 

 

davericho
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Newcomer
November 4, 2022

Hi @downing123 I don't understand this myself but my Solis system is being installed in 2 weeks time so will look out and see if mine does like yours

NewB.......Always amazed with simple solutions
BPLightlog
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Super User
November 4, 2022

It is worth noting that most (if not all) inverters do not react instantaneously and so if the sun disappears behind a cloud, there is a balance needed to control power from solar PV into/from batteries and to maintain supply from the grid - this is where there can be a feed back to the grid at time while the system is balancing. 
​​​As @Jequinlan mentions, these flows are normal but overall the system does what is required. 
I’m sure in future systems will be able to respond much faster on switchover. 

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M.isterW
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November 4, 2022

Another thing to consider is that batteries have a maximum charge rate. If your excess solar PV (over the amount being used by your house) is more than the maximum charge rate the excess will go to the grid, even though your battery isn't full.

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