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My smart gas meter isn't communicating with OVO anymore - no readings - why?

  • 21 November 2017
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Have been on Smart Gas and Electric meters for some time now but in the last month the Gas meter has failed to send any readings to OVO so at the weekend I did a manual read by pressing '9' on the Gas meter and sent these in. Anyone have any ideas why this would suddenly stop working? is there some magic sequence of buttons to press to get this working again? The smart display shows figures for Electric but nothing at all for Gas.

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Best answer by Mw2870 22 November 2017, 22:46

10/10 for effort going outside! It is miserable here!
My mistake, it is the WAN light which flashes on the Electricity meter.
On the Electricity and Gas meter you have to press any button and when you do there should be a solid "HAN" symbol on the LCD display. It may be flashing on one or both if there is a problem.
Is the electricity meter in a different location from the Gas. Some people have reported connection problems when they are a distance apart.
Finally do you have an IHD (In Home Display) is that reporting any info from the Gas Meter?
In the meantime you can send in manual readings by pressing the "9" button and making a note of the kWh value.

Another potentially helpful topic here.

**updated 18/02/2020**

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Use a “virtual postcard” @MDL73 !

I was in precisely this situation for most of 2019. I wanted to ensure that there was sufficient information being provided to OVO to avoid the possibility of them producing inflated Estimated Readings.

I simply sent monthly emails to Customer Support hello@ovoenergy.com stating the readings for both fuels. I also provided confirmation of the current status of the meters, such as “gas readings not being sent to my IHD or my OVO Account page online” so that there was an ongoing history which could be read by OVO technical staff.

I did receive telephone responses and sometimes emails from CS Staff on most occasions. And they confirmed that my monthly email trail was indeed being passed to engineers on the SMETS2 Team.

In the end, these emails provided enough detail to help track down what was going wrong, avoided inflated bills in the meantime, and also assisted in generating a bill-correction once the meter communication problem was resolved.

So, my gas meter isn’t communicating with the electricity meter and has been this way since 9.1.20

 

I submitted my smart meter health report last Friday (17.1.20) and not had a response, despite receiving an email from OVO saying they would contact me within 48 hours.

My next bill date is 25.1.20, but I have no way of manually inputting a gas meter reading as MyOVO says I don’t have to submit readings as I am on a smart meter...WHICH DOESN’T WORK!!!!!

How the hell am I supposed to submit a reading without calling and potentially losing my self-service rewards? Answers on a postcard please….

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Oh yes; I’m glad you found that too @MDL73

Ofgem have highlighted “lack of public knowledge” as a reason why the UK Domestic Energy strategy is being held back.

I think there’s a lot that can be done to alleviate this by those with a little technical knowledge sharing it with a wider audience.

Now that the public (and Parliament) is motivated to combat Climate Change, I’d really like to see rapid progress towards us using Smart Metering to better handle our energy consumption. That means we need to get beyond the issues of fault-reporting, and move onto variable-rate tariffs, automated use of devices via Auxilliary Load-Control Switches and energy-storage technologies.

There’s so much more that SMETS meters can do for us than simply reporting usage!

I think I can make better use of my time & knowledge by sharing information here than I can by joining XR on a protest march. (But I do have friends who are members).

Interestingly, some of my diagrams posted to this Forum are now finding their way into official publications! :slight_smile:

Feel free to share anything here with family, friends and neighbours. Nor do they have to be OVO customers to join in.

@Transparent – ….saw you posted this on another topic – VERY USEFUL!! Thank you.

https://forum.ovoenergy.com/smart-meter-booking-and-installations-66/smets2-smart-meter-installation-6181

@Transparent  – thank you for the link to the other thread, will have a good read of that today. Guess it’s my phon’s flashlight and an evening spent pushing buttons for me! I have no problem doing the techhy part, it’s just frustrating that it’s stopped so suddenly. The IHD, gas meter, elec. meter and my own broadband hub ar no more than 5m apart...in fact the IHD is centre-point of a 5m radius where the other 3 items above sit. 

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Ah… well that makes sense to me from a technical viewpoint @MDL73. I can think of several reasons why the Zigbee link between Gas Meter, Communications Hub and its internal Gas-proxy can break.

That’s why OVO are trying to spot patterns by requesting additional information.

Some customers will find this daunting. But others of us don’t mind putting our heads inside meter boxes and pressing buttons to read meter-status messages!

Have a look at what I wrote here just 3 days ago about the LED indicators giving a false positive reading.

Every little bit of information helps.

@Transparent I have a form which was emailed to me today to reply with first to show the supposed ‘health’ of the smart meters, complete with photos. I’ve already informed OVO as to the status of the meters seemingly being OK i.e. they are on and working and showing the correct lights/details on their respective displays. But, seemingly that’s not enough for them. What I cannot fathom is why, after 10 months of satisfactory operation the gas meter would stop talking to the electricity meter. No clear answers, no individual diagnoses for any customers here...just comments from OVO that it ‘could be this, could be that’. Really disappointed.

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I agree @MDL73 - this can’t be an issue with the Wide Area Network because the Communications Hub is still sending electricity readings.

I have experienced non-communication from the gas meter to the Comms Hub on several occasions during 2019 because my SMETS2 meters were being used to test software. Twice I required meters and Comms Hub to be replaced. On the other occasions, communication was re-established by OVO downloading new software.

Such a move is not without risk as it has the potential to lose all communication, thereby necessitating another site visit. That’s why I had a clear agreement with OVO SMETS2 Engineers that they could use test code on my site.

I recommend that you email Customer Support, stating the situation and indicate that the issue be passed to the SMETS2 Team. That gives you a date/time-stamped copy of the notification.

If a software update is deemed necessary, then you will probably need to wait until the new code has been approved through stringent tests, cross-checked with the manufacturer (Toshiba and Uniflow) and passed as suitable for distribution to customer sites.

@Eva_OVO 

 

That makes no sense, as the electricity meter is still sending daily readings through to OVO. Therefore, why would the gas meter stop talking to the electricity meter due to a phone mast being down?

 

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There could be a few reasons why the meter has stopped communicating with us, @MDL73, the main being a tempory issue with a phone mast in your area.

 

We’ll need to give the meter some time as it may start communicating with us again. 

 

If it doesn’t, our team will pick this up and get in touch with you directly asking you to do a smart meter health check - just to set your expectations they could wait up to 3 months to do this to give the meter a chance to resolve this on it’s own. 

 

 

 

 

On 9 Jan 2020, I noticed that my gas readings were suddenly missing from my IHD. Sure enough on inspecting my online meter readings the electricity was still being taken, but there has been no gas reading since 9.1.2020

 

The smart meter was installed in April 2019, and it’s been working fine since. Nothing has changed regarding the location of the meter, the IHD or my broadband router so I’m perplexed as to how or even why the gas reading has suddenly stopped. The gas meter itself appears to be on and working, as well as the electricity meter and I still have all the normal gas appliances and central heating working just fine.

 

Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated…

 

Regards,

 

David.

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It sounds like a faulty meter for sure, @taffy, glad to hear you have an appointment booked in.

This topic will give you some insight on the next steps, after a faulty meter has been replaced. 

Thanks! 

That’s what I meant when I said it was dead; pressing 9 did not get any response.

Ovo are supposed to be sending someone now. Until they do I guess I have free gas.

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It’s not great to hear that we took us so long to picked up the lack of communication, @taffy

The meter display will be blank, it goes into sleep mode until it is “woken up” unless of course the meter is faulty. 

I’d recommend taking a reading, if you can, more info on how to take a reading here, if you can email the reading to the team here: hello@ovoenergy.com, they’ll be able to bring the account up to date. 

Hope this helps! 

 

 

 

 

I’ve just found that my (smart) gas meter stopped working 6m ago (after working OK for the previous 9m).

The meter is as dead as the proverbial Norwegian Blue - i.e no reading on the display or anything.

I’ve given the data asked for to Ovo and am waiting for a response. My question is why did it take 6 months to notice when the meter is supposed to report every half hour.

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Hi @oboulind The non-communicating gas meter is a known problem which is besetting a number of customers... including me!

We haven't yet been told if OVO have tracked down a single reason for this, but it's being discussed elsewhere across the Forum. I suggest you start by having a look at what we've been writing about SMETS2 Meter Installations here.
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Welcome to the forum, @oboulind, I've moved your post here.

Please see the post above, especially the best answer, in answer to your first problem.

If we haven't been getting a reading from the smart meter we have to use estimated readings so that we can produce a statement for you. The estimated readings are based on 3-5 years of historical readings. Please try and resubmit the reading on your MyOVO account. If you can't enter the reading, please send us a message on Facebook, Twitter or email our team on hello@ovoenergy.com, with the reading, this will enable us to bring your account up to date.

Thanks!
I have two problems:

  1. my gas smart meter is not communicating with OVO but my electric one is. how do i fix this?
  2. i tried to submit a manual meter reading. i pressed '9' on the gas meter keypad and got a reading. however the reading is below what the OVO website shows from the last estimated reading. the readings have been estimated for months (i did not know this as i don't log onto the website since i got the smart meters last year). how do i get the correct meter readings in the system? i have no idea how OVO has been estimating my usage and I'm somewhat perplexed as to why OVO thinks I've used 4x as much gas as my current reading shows. or, alternatively, the changeover to the gas smart meter was not done correctly and the current estimated readings are based on the old meter...
please can you help
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Hi @Zaf - I've moved your post over here. The information in this thread might help with your query.
I've received an email telling me that my smart meter isn't sending readings, and that I need to provide readings. But I haven't been told what the problem might be or if someone needs to come out to fix it. How do I get this information? How long befre this is fixed?
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There's a few comments here from customers experiencing the same issue, @AdReds!

You'll need to do a smart meter health check, the questions are below. Just pop your answers in an email to our Customer Care team to get this sorted - hello@ovoenergy.com.

1. Confirm your smart meter serial numbers - they are written directly above the barcode on each meter and should begin ‘G4P...’ for gas and ‘15P...’ for elec.

2. Look for a light labelled WAN on the front of your electricity meter - is it flashing/solid/off? If it's flashing, how many times does it flash?

3. Check the word HAN on your gas meter - is this flashing or solid?

4. Press 0 on your electricity meter - does it show the time and date or the word COMMISSION?

5. Press 0 on your gas meter - does it show the time and date or the word COMMISSION?

6. Press 9 (or 6 if you have a two-rate meter) on your electricity meter and provide your current read which appears after the word ‘IMP KWH’.

7. Press 9 on your Gas meter and provide your current read which appears after the word ‘VOLUME’.

8. Where is your electricity meter situated? E.g. inside, outside, in a metal box, near thick walls, the basement or anywhere that could be blocking signal.

9. Are you in a good/medium or bad mobile signal in your area and next to the meter?

10. Please let us know roughly how far your gas meter is from the electricity meter. Are there any thick walls that could be blocking signal?
Hi guys. Had my two smart meters (SMET1) installed a few weeks back.

A couple of issues both with gas;
1) On MyOvo it's saying that I still need to give gas readings manually. Electricity is fine its reading that every half hour.
2) Gas is also not showing on the IHD, only the standard daily charge.

Smart Meters are about 1 meter apart with no walls or anything in between.

Any ideas? Thanks!
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@dasilvor,

I am absolutely certain that you won't be losing your SSR over this issue. Even if it doesn't appear on your Statement, it will most certainly magically reappear if you send in an email headed "Complaint"!

There is no way that OVO would let such an issue progress to the Energy Ombudsman, because he'd throw the book at them! 😨
I've just given my gas meter reading, so I will see if I have lost my discount when I get my statement, next week. If I have, I will do as you have suggested. As for the phone call to OVO, they have phoned me and made an appointment to sort the gas meter out.
Thanks Dave
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Hey @dasilvor - that really shouldn't be the case if you can't get the help you need on the FAQs or Forum. We'd like to look into this for you. Please send the team on Facebook a message with your account number, full name and DoB so they can investigate.

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