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Lost Connection - Smart Meters and IHD not sending meter readings - why?

  • 6 September 2017
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My Smart Meters (Electricity+Gas) were installed 1 week ago along with an In Home Display (IHD). The IHD on day 2 lost connection and I have not been able to get it back since. I have gone online and confirmed that no readings are being sent so at present there is nothing smart about it, unfortunately. The Smart meters do not come with any instructions neither does the IHD (in-built tutorial is basic only). Pressing 9 on the Electricity meter turns the digital display on (they have power saving displays) and presents the data you would expect to see on the IHD e.g. used today, used last week etc. There are no issues with my Wi-Fi. I have gone on-line to reset my browser and that doesn't work. I have used WPS and manual key entry to connect the IHD to my Wi-Fi and although it recognizes my ISP (~Sky) it is still not working. Currently, I'm unsure if it is not connected to the Wi-Fi or if it cannot connect to the meters themselves (instructions would help). IHD is within 20 metres of the Smart Meters and within Wi-Fi range. I have fixed bars on the IHD. Question: How does a user get their IHD reconnected or confirm Meters are not working properly?

 

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Best answer by Mw2870 8 November 2017, 01:25

Updated 30/4/2020

 

Hi Guys,

One thing you can check is the WAN light on the electricity meter.

If it is flashing then it is connected to the mobile phone network OK and should be sending readings back to OVO.

If it is on solidly or off completely then you have a problem.
Make sure you check the correct light as there is another red light that flashes every time you use a certain amount of electricity.
 

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You will only find the WAN light on the Electricity meter as the Gas meter connects to the Electricity meter to send its reading.

There is another topic on the forum here where people have similar problems.

Hope this helps!

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It does’t sound like it, @scuthber, it’s a shame to hear we couldn’t get this sorted over the phone for you, but it sounds like we need to get an engineer to recommission the meter. Once this has been done, the IHD should kick back into action

Thanks! . 

Giving up on my IHD. The gas works, but the electricity stopped a few months ago. Spoke to Ovo, who said someone from the smart-metering team would probably have to visit and that’s that. Is there any way I can re-pair the electricity meter myself?

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One thing you can check is the WAN light on the electricity meter.

If it is flashing then it is connected to the mobile phone network OK and should be sending readings back to OVO.

If it is on solidly or off completely that you have a problem.
Make sure you check the correct light as there is another red light that flashes every time you use a certain amount of electricity.
 

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You will only find the WAN light on the Electricity meter as the Gas meter connects to the Electricity meter to send it's reading.

There is another topic on the forum here where people have similar problems:
https://forum.ovoenergy.com/smart-meter-booking-and-installations-66/smart-meters-working-but-not-communicating-with-ovo-why-435

Updated on 13/2/2020

 

 

Very odd, @Sparkster2301 - I’d expect the gas meter usage data to also be an issue if it is for the electricity. Have a look at the ‘best answer’ which I’ve got above this message, which let’s you confirm or rule out a signal issue between your electricity meter and us. 

 

Then give us a call so an agent can run through what we call the ‘smart meter health checks’, to diagnose the issue: 0330 303 5063


Tim

I have just discovered today that my electricity smart meter has not logged a reading with OVO since the 24/01, yet my gas meter reading is getting logged daily. The led lights on the electricity meter is blinking green.  What do I need to?  I only discovered this by accident when I logged onto my OVO account and it said that they had not received a meter reading for electricity for some time?

 

Quite an interesting diagnostic session at the weekend - I followed the directions provided by an Agent, and found that the gas meter appears to be communicating successfully, and the (single) LED on the electricty meter is flashing once a second. I’ve taken readings.

 

However, the bad news is the mobile signal next to the electricity meter is even lower than the cellar it’s located in:

 

The odd thing is that the signal’s been fine for 3 years, but since 5G was introduced there’s been a reduction in 3/4G signal strength, and now the meter(s) have all but lost their signal! This is with EE - we also have on O2 mobile which on closer inspection is about the same.

Thanks, I’m due to have a look at the meters tomorrow, as the gas meter’s rather inaccessible. I can see the electricity meter red light’s flashing though. I was emailed a list of tasks to work through so I’ll do that and get back to you.

 

It’s very strange that this should happen though - it’s been woirking fine for a number of years.

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That wifi symbol top left (with a cross across it) tells me the IHD isn’t linked up to the smart meters@Halifaxer 

 

Same with you@AndrewPB @liz18 - have a look at the electricity meter - is the middle of the three red lights near the top left of the meter face flashing? Is the mobile signal good by the meter? If it’s a no to either of these, there’s a signal issue that needs to be fully diagnosed: 0330 303 5063.

 

The agent can also check the readings being used in your bill and make sure they all line up.  

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7 weeks ago I reporter a faulty meter. An engineer came out installed or rather started the installation of a smart one.The smart meter has not been connected as yet even though we have asked several times for it to be done.

Added to This Ovo have estimated our usage,for the period of fault but have completely ignored the fact that we were over £900 in credit with them ! The credit has been cleared from the statements as if it never  existed therefore the bill is an over inflated amount ??

My Smart meter only gets a data connection intermittently.  When it did connect a couple of weeks ago the electricity reading, according to my online records, was around 2100.  An estimated bill  a few days later is consistent with this reading.  I checked the meter, pressed 9 and the reading was 5900 KwH.  Why the difference?  Was the meter set up correctly? The gas readings are correct. 

My smart meter(s) haven’t sent a reading since the 14th October - nearly a week as i write this. I checked my electricity meter and the red LED is flashing. Here’s my IHD info panel. 
 

it’s very important that i get this sorted as we have elderly people in the the house and we can’t risk any unexpected bills due to having estimated bills. 
 

Also, as i understood it during installation there was no requirement for WiFi to be available as it’s allegedly all done via a mobile signal: can you please confirm that this correct as we have a big problem  getting WiFi to certain areas in the house due to its construction. The meters have been working sinc3 2016 without a problem.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

 

I relented this morning and chased it again by telephone - hopefully that may bear fruit. 

However the processes of OVO need some kind of overhaul if it takes over 2 months and 3 different reports to get some kind of action.  I worked in a service supplier industry for 38 years and if we had reacted in the same way as this then I would have been embarrassed to be associated with them. 

The basic responses I had previously all seemed to suggest that OVO feel their customers are not intelligent enough to report the facts, and they will ignore it until the customer simply gives up and goes away. 

Your online systems give ample opportunity for anyone with half a brain to see that something is just not right - I had to point out that nobody uses exactly the same amount of gas day in and day out - for 70 days - who in their right mind could assume that was correct?  Even telling you that the electric meter has not moved a single digit since installation didn’t set alarm bells ringing - even telling you that the gas meter didn’t even show a digit (not even a zero) didn’t spur the company into action.  How many pointers do OVO need to tell them something is wrong and needs attention.

I wait with baited breath to see what the next outcome is - but I fear holding my breath could be my ultimate demise if previous experience is anything to go by.

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Not good to hear, @alan54 

 

Let me get straight to the point: if this issue has been escalated to a manager, and then our Complaints team, it absolutely should be something you get contacted about, within 5 working days. If you haven’t, it tells me that there’s been some miscommunication and the agent you spoke to has not escalated this issue accordingly. There will be notes and I very much hope there will be a complaint on the account. So in this case, I would recommend calling up to ask for that same complaint to be escalated. 

 

We are super hot on these issues, and only crossed wires like this would prevent you from hearing from us when the complaint isn’t resolved. Give us another chance to put this right: 0330 303 5063

Oh dear - yet again a nothing response.  I have already sent all of the relevant details to the complaints department using YOUR online form.  Below that form is states --
 

  1. You get in touch and tell us why you aren’t happy  I did

  2. Our customer service team will do everything they can to resolve your complaint

  3. If the problem can’t be resolved, your case will be passed to our Escalated Complaints Team

  4. One of our experienced complaints team will be in touch within 5 working days.  You haven’t

  5. Some things might take a little longer than 5 days, but don’t worry we will keep you up to date.  You haven’t

  6. If at any point you are unhappy with how your complaint has been handled, we can offer you an internal review.  I don’t want an internal review - I want someone to just do as you say you will - they are your processes - not mine ------ do as your process says - simple

I have been complaining about this installation since less than a week after it was installed - I have upheld my part of the deal - please start to uphold yours.  You have my contact details - stop faffing about with chat rooms - make 1 to 1 contact.  I am not re-reporting it. 

I simply don’t keep chasing utility companies - once I have done my bit it is up to you to respond properly i.e. directly to the customer.

Majorly dissapointed with OVO

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This is something the team will need to look into, @alan54. You can email them on hello@ovoenergy.com or call them on the number in Tim’s message.

 

Alternatively, if you use social media, you can message us on on Facebook or Twitter with your name, DoB and account number.

Tim_OVO - you seem to have missed the point here - the meter hasn't registered even 1Kw since you installed it - not the IHD - that is another problem (possibly linked - but not the main problem from your (that is OVO not you personally) point of view).

I can't manually read a reading that isn't there, unless of course you want me to send you 000000 every time, which I am happy to do as you can then charge me £00:00 for my usage.

As for thick stone walls - I live in a house not a cave - if a smart meter can't transmit through a 3 inch house brick then your IT staff need to go back to the drawing board.

Phone signals ------- we have full coverage here - I am not in a backwater of the Hebridean Highlands here - my mobile signal is so strong it almost burns my ears when I use the phone.

All I am getting from OVO is excuses that simply don't hold water (or gas and electricity in this case).

If you wish to resolve this then I suggest you sort out a site visit - or pass it on to someone who can. I will only respond to any further communication when that is going to be the outcome - otherwise please feel free to keep supplying me with free products
Good afternoon.
I think the fact that since having a smart meter installed on 8th August 2019 (3 months ago) you appear to be supplying me with free electricity (and possibly free gas) may kick your backsides into gear to sort something out.

I have rung twice, so far, asking you to sort out what the fix is for the IHD, which refuses to display correctly for either Gas or Electricity, only to be fobbed off with some platitude about the IHDs taking up to 3 months to settle down. The advisor told me not to worry because the “smart” meter would be sending you the readings even though the IHD was having a rest(🙄) before it decided to do any work.

This seemed like a load of tosh to me however, who am I to argue with your "experts". The IHD has slowly become more and more confusing - seeming to change it's mind on what sort of gas usage we have each day, even though our gas use habits are pretty fixed. The reading has leapt from 40p per day to over £1.00 per day, and even at the daily reset at midnight now shows 29p used in the first hour - what can you possibly think draws almost 30% of our usage in 1 hour in the middle of the night???

The IHD point blank refuses to show electricity usage at all no matter what I do to reset - following all of the advice given in your online forums.

Today, just for interest, I decided to see what the actual "supposed" smart meter was reading. Well, on the assumption that the meter should show the actual use no matter what the IHD shows, I was a touch surprised to find that the electricity meter still shows 000000 - just as it did on installation.

Now don't get me wrong, I am happy for you to give your product away for free - however as a model citizen I feel it is only fair to inform you that you have cocked up in a big way with this installation.

I have complained twice before, from the first week of it being suspect, - and due to your inability to come up with anything like a reasonable explanation I left it for you to sort out - but you haven't.

I have grave doubts the gas is reading correctly either because the display on that meter is actually blank - not even any zeros.

I will point out that you have zero chance of reclaiming any back dated fees for electricity (or gas for that matter) because I have made you aware of the problem from the start and was told that it wasn't a big deal that would sort itself. I have given you every chance to correct it from the off, and your inability to correct the fault will not result in me being "assessed" for use - I told you it was wrong and you just didn't care - so it is your loss not mine.

I have now gone into my online account on my telephone and discovered you are actually telling me the damn thing isn't working and you want readings manually - well I am sorry, apart from there being nothing on the meters to read, I have no intention of giving manual readings - that was the whole point of have a "Smart????" meter installed – I didn’t have to worry about getting readings to you in a timely manner – you just took them.
So far the "smart???" meter has been anything but smart - it has only resulted in more grief for both me and you.

Please sort this debacle out ASAP please.


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I have now gone into my online account on my telephone and discovered you are actually telling me the damn thing isn't working and you want readings manually - well I am sorry, apart from there being nothing on the meters to read, I have no intention of giving manual readings - that was the whole point of have a "Smart????"


@alan54 not a good experience you've outlined here, to say the least!

Getting straight to the point, we can't offer much account specific advice here, but if there is communication issues, between the meters and us, or between the meters and the IHD, they will need to be read manually, like your old ones.

It's likely that the situation on site is the issue, otherwise we should be able to sort out with an engineer visit. With poor phone signal areas, the only hope of getting a smart meter to act smart is the hope that, in time, all areas of the country get good phone signal in place.

Other on site issues might be a thick stone wall blocking signal. Again, not much we can do about that.

Of course, if this is something that an engineer can fix, we need to get on that pronto: 0330 303 5063.
Hi Nancy, I've dropped you two PM's but no reply?
Made my day.....good luck
Good afternoon.
I think the fact that since having a smart meter installed on 8th August 2019 (3 months ago) you appear to be supplying me with free electricity (and possibly free gas) may kick your backsides into gear to sort something out.

I have rung twice, so far, asking you to sort out what the fix is for the IHD, which refuses to display correctly for either Gas or Electricity, only to be fobbed off with some platitude about the IHDs taking up to 3 months to settle down. The advisor told me not to worry because the “smart” meter would be sending you the readings even though the IHD was having a rest(🙄) before it decided to do any work.

This seemed like a load of tosh to me however, who am I to argue with your "experts". The IHD has slowly become more and more confusing - seeming to change it's mind on what sort of gas usage we have each day, even though our gas use habits are pretty fixed. The reading has leapt from 40p per day to over £1.00 per day, and even at the daily reset at midnight now shows 29p used in the first hour - what can you possibly think draws almost 30% of our usage in 1 hour in the middle of the night???

The IHD point blank refuses to show electricity usage at all no matter what I do to reset - following all of the advice given in your online forums.

Today, just for interest, I decided to see what the actual "supposed" smart meter was reading. Well, on the assumption that the meter should show the actual use no matter what the IHD shows, I was a touch surprised to find that the electricity meter still shows 000000 - just as it did on installation.

Now don't get me wrong, I am happy for you to give your product away for free - however as a model citizen I feel it is only fair to inform you that you have cocked up in a big way with this installation.

I have complained twice before, from the first week of it being suspect, - and due to your inability to come up with anything like a reasonable explanation I left it for you to sort out - but you haven't.

I have grave doubts the gas is reading correctly either because the display on that meter is actually blank - not even any zeros.

I will point out that you have zero chance of reclaiming any back dated fees for electricity (or gas for that matter) because I have made you aware of the problem from the start and was told that it wasn't a big deal that would sort itself. I have given you every chance to correct it from the off, and your inability to correct the fault will not result in me being "assessed" for use - I told you it was wrong and you just didn't care - so it is your loss not mine.

I have now gone into my online account on my telephone and discovered you are actually telling me the damn thing isn't working and you want readings manually - well I am sorry, apart from there being nothing on the meters to read, I have no intention of giving manual readings - that was the whole point of have a "Smart????" meter installed – I didn’t have to worry about getting readings to you in a timely manner – you just took them.
So far the "smart???" meter has been anything but smart - it has only resulted in more grief for both me and you.

Please sort this debacle out ASAP please.
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Hi @enterpryse,

An appointment for resetting the connection and an installation are booked on separate platforms and have different timeframes, so I'm surprised to hear you were told there's no availability.

Can you drop me a PM so I can take a look into this?

Thanks
I have the same problem. Installed on Monday, lost connection on Wednesday.

The link posted about a year ago doesn't work for me.

Any advice please, thanks in advance.


8 months on and still not working. I FB messaged a week or so ago to chase again and was told that there are no engineer slots available.

TBH I believe OVO have so many engineers out there doing installations to meet government targets that getting them working is a much lower priority and potentially less costly for them in the long run.
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Sorry to hear you haven't had a reply, @James L. Can you drop us a message as described above so we can chase it up for you.

Thanks,
Nancy
My electric meter has not been sending data since beginning of September. It was fine up till then. All lights flashing except for Mesh.
Gas however is okay. I have emailed Ovo twice about this and not heard back.

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